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is he good enough for the prem no is he good enough yo get us promoted maybe so not pushed on signing him one good game isnt a season.

We should be signing players that are good enough for prem i would take howson over alying to prem the reason leeds got rid of him.

I take it all the loan players will be going home after this game as no one here wants them greenwood alying pity thomas is not a loan player as i dont want him here next season.

If carrick desent give the kids ago tomorrow he shouldnt be here next year we have to know is there anymore gems to get us promoted.

We have been to long in this league how many years is it now watching teams like newcastle come down & go straight back without the mega money they have now we are all tired of this league now i want us to go up & do the damage we used to do to teams like 8-1 against city will those days ever...

There is nothing to be positive about.

We could so easy be in a relagation fight by xmas if our best players are sold.

The question should be who still loves carrick on here after ipswich get promoted with our rejects.

Sky ran Legends indoor 5 a side tournament years ago around xmas i would like to see that back to keep fans entertained over xmas for the fans that cant live without a game over xmas.

Thomas starting we will get walloped first half we need a big clearout in the summer.

How many fans would agree to switching to a summer league playing from march to november . Playing the league in one year than splitting it wouldnt it give full attendances at games over the summer than getting frost bite in stoke in January.

Will someone on here correct the spelling of leam to liam .

Its all down to how much prem players we have in the team not alot all sold off to pay the bills.

You have to judge each player on the EPL are they good enough to take the step up or just good enough for this league also the coach they are trained by Carrick is trying to make him something he is not under a new manager playing him in a different position we might see a different player.

Nothing wrong with Engel just he is not a defender he is attack minded so always going forward blame Carrick for trying to make him something he is not.

We are just not the right club for him.

Alot of rubbish was brought in over the summer does carrick have some of the blame for bringing them in if not maybe he deserves a little slack.

The season is over & carrick is still playing for his job as even if we went 3 up he still wouldnt give the kids a chance saying that Dijksteel is a better player than onloan alying & cant get a game the difference a good manager can make.

Its a dire a game to watch when you can see changes need to be made.

I am just telling it like it is as we all can see.