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Mayor Goldie Wilson

Mayor Goldie Wilson

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What a shambles they have become. Haven’t come close to a World Cup for over 20 years, and are struggling in the Copa America now too. Just read that they haven’t got past the 1/4 finals of a competition outside of Brazil since 2009.
 
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asredastheycome said:
Unlike England who sweep all before them😂
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Yes, we've done similar: for over 20 years we didn't get past a quarter final in any form.

Now we do it so regularly we've forgotten how bad we were for so long.

I think it's worse for Brazil though: there's only 10 teams in their continent, so failing to make it past last consistently is pretty bad.
 
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Mayor Goldie Wilson said:
What a shambles they have become. Haven’t come close to a World Cup for over 20 years, and are struggling in the Copa America now too. Just read that they haven’t got past the 1/4 finals of a competition outside of Brazil since 2009.
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and the one time they did they were dismantled by Germany. What was, 5-0 at half time?

I said it before Qatar, they’ve been pretty rubbish for ages. BUT they are due another “good spell” like 1958-1970 or 1994-2002 were.
 
Nano said:
Brazil haven't felt very Brazilian for a long time to me. I think the majority of their players playing in Europe and having the Brazilian flair coached out of them means they have lost what made them special.
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Hmm. But in the 94-02 era they were mostly playing in Europe too.
 
I think the games evolved beyond what made "Brazilian football" so special.

Brazilian football, with the likes of Ronaldo, Rivaldo and Ronaldinho, was all about having fun, dribbling, skillful play. It was exciting, great to watch...
There's an argument that the players cared more about "playing the beautiful game" than winning the cup.

That style has been beaten out of modern day football.

If you put prime Ronaldinho at a club like Man Utd or Chelsea now, against Man City... I don't necessarily rate Kyle Walker that highly... but if Ronaldinho tried to do anything fancy, he'd just get fouled.

I say the same about Maradona's great run through the England defense in the 80s... I don't believe he'd be able to score that goal, in that way, against our current Middlesbrough team...
He'd get his shirt pulled, Howson would take a tactic yellow, and Argentina would have a meaningless free kick too far away to do anything with.

I'm by no means saying Boro would beat Argentina - but that "style of play" doesn't exist beyond Messi of a few years ago.
 
Nano said:
Brazil haven't felt very Brazilian for a long time to me. I think the majority of their players playing in Europe and having the Brazilian flair coached out of them means they have lost what made them special.
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The quality of defending and increased discipline and structure within the game at the top level means individuals struggle to do what they did 20 years + ago.
 
Ash88 said:
I say the same about Maradona's great run through the England defense in the 80s... I don't believe he'd be able to score that goal, in that way, against our current Middlesbrough team...
He'd get his shirt pulled, Howson would take a tactic yellow, and Argentina would have a meaningless free kick too far away to do anything with.
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Well it would have been disallowed by VAR for the unquestionable assault on Glenn Hoddle seconds before it, for a start.
 
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