Clearly not suited for every sector but that doesn’t mean those who can adopt this shouldn’t because other sectors can’tWhat I can’t wrap my head around in this is, who is the “we/they” when we talk about moving on to a 4 day week.
Obviously people will still want to go to the shops, pub, restaurants etc on a weekend and no one is suggesting that those things shut down on a Thursday night. But is the four day week something that’s only going to benefit those of us who have a Mon to Fri 9-5?
I think it’s a good idea in principle, but can’t figure out how it’s done without kind of segregating the workforce.
Imagine being such a miserable old sod that you actively wanted to make the world a worse place for future generations?This is a big part of the problem in this country. People voting based on things that don't effect them, that they don't understand and are actually none of their F***ing business.
Sadly the politics of envy and resentment are often more successful than those of hope or aspiration. Easier to sell and the right wing politicians and media know it.
Edna and Ken are easy targets. No doubt live in their own little world, watching ***** on the telly and with an unshakeable belief their very narrow and limited life experience must be replicated across the country and is the only "truth" that exists.
What, and vote Brexit to achieve your dream of making people sad.Imagine being such a miserable old sod that you actively wanted to make the world a worse place for future generations?
I agree with that and while not offering a four day week to be fair my employer offers me a massive amount of flexibility with regard to when and where I work.Clearly not suited for every sector but that doesn’t mean those who can adopt this shouldn’t because other sectors can’t
Our government is too focussed on taking food away from hungry kids, this kind of policy is sci-fi nonsense to themI agree with that and while not offering a four day week to be fair my employer offers me a massive amount of flexibility with regard to when and where I work.
Like I said I’ve not quite figured it out, but it kind of feels like the people who might benefit from it the most such as people on lower pay in service jobs would miss out?
I don’t want to appear to be knocking it as an idea, I’m just trying to get a better understanding of it.
Is it being suggested from a government level?
I work Sunday night through to Thursday morning and the back end people work Wednesday night through to Sunday morning. We obviously have an overlap on Wednesdays where everyone is in and it works fine, every night is covered and people have 3 days off to do stuff and not just be slaves to the clock.What I can’t wrap my head around in this is, who is the “we/they” when we talk about moving on to a 4 day week.
Obviously people will still want to go to the shops, pub, restaurants etc on a weekend and no one is suggesting that those things shut down on a Thursday night. But is the four day week something that’s only going to benefit those of us who have a Mon to Fri 9-5?
I think it’s a good idea in principle, but can’t figure out how it’s done without kind of segregating the workforce.
Shift work such as NHS frontline is easy enough to envisage improved working hours and patterns. Obviously we would need more nurses and doctors but perhaps not flogging the current ones to within a heartbeat of total exhaustion might at least improve retention? The way we treat workers who aspire to serve is shocking. And that's not just in health services.This isn't about that. Loads of people have work patterns like that anyway. The article talks about reducing hours by 20% on the same pay. Do you think the NHS would be able to cope if all the nurses reduced their hours by 20%?
The same paper quite a few on here read.I wonder which paper these two read and who they voted for.
The Guardian - Outside a local pharmacy, Edna and Ken Cox stop to speak as they run their midweek errands. Edna Cox, who is retired, believes that the four-day week does not allow enough time for employees to complete their work.
“Having come from an older age group, I don’t think you can do what you need to do in reduced working hours,” she says. “Back in my day, I was in charge of an office and we could not have done the work we did in four days. Our workload involved phone calls, chasing people, etc. So no, I don’t believe in a four-day week.”
Ken says: “I worked bloody hard. There was no way I could have done the job in four days. There were some days where I used to leave at 6am and return at 10pm just to get the job done.
He adds: “It is all rubbish, if they honestly think they can do a five-day week in four days, they could always be sensible and still let the employees work for five days and then get rid of half of them. You can’t have it both ways – either have a five-day job, or you’ve got too many people.”
If anyone tried to schedule me for a meeting after 3PM, I'd turn it down and offer them 7AM next day.....Hope you asked the Directors where the F*** their fat ar*es were at 7.30 am? lazy b*******.
I hate that whole presenteeism culture. It's what you get done that counts, not how long you are sitting at a desk.
They are so frightened that this type of thing might catch on.This is an attack on local democracy by central government. It's wrong
As it should be for many jobs, being in the office or at your desk isn't in itself doing the job....he says taking a 10 minute break from more powerpoint slides and talking politics, economics and social sciences on a football websiteYears ago (late 80's to early 90's) I was working for a no longer existing tech Company called Digital Equipment Corporation (DEC) at Reading. I would fly down on the 06:00'ish from Teesside to Heathrow and bus it to the location, arriving around 10:00 & work till 18:00 to get off early into the digs then work two 12 hours days till 21:00, on the last day till 08:00-14:00 and fly back. Was nice to get the three days off and my boss was just a 'get the job done and I'm happy' type so it was never an issue.
Simon and Garfunkel sang a song about Edna and Ken called the borders of our lives.This is a big part of the problem in this country. People voting based on things that don't effect them, that they don't understand and are actually none of their F***ing business.
Sadly the politics of envy and resentment are often more successful than those of hope or aspiration. Easier to sell and the right wing politicians and media know it.
Edna and Ken are easy targets. No doubt live in their own little world, watching ***** on the telly and with an unshakeable belief their very narrow and limited life experience must be replicated across the country and is the only "truth" that exists.