Is Sunak right?

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speckyget

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Just had the rare pleasure of watching the Prime Minister's press conference to trumpet his stonking majority on the Rwanda Bill. He confirmed that if necessary - as the Bill provides - he will ignore any attempts by the ECtHR to thwart illegal extraditions to Rwanda. What he seems to be doing now is gambling his political future on 'the people' (assuming he means the electorate) being sufficiently xenophobic in sufficient numbers to outweigh any squeamishness about the UK becoming one of 'those countries' - e.g., Belarus and the Russian Federation - who don't recognise the mechanisms that have guaranteed human rights and fundamental freedoms for 70 years.

Is he right though? By which I mean is this an astute political punt, not is he acting on any higher principle - given he has the moral compunction of a virus.
 
Yes Sunak is right. Far right...

...I'm here all week :)

He looked like he didn't believe a word he was saying. Body language terrible. Spent more time looking down than at the audience and the room was in silence except when journos were called to ask their question. Even they could see it's a farce and could hardly be bothered to engage.

Starmer should demand right of reply since Seven Bins used the conference as an election broadcast.

It is also very amusing that in the next few weeks the HoL will be attacked as the latest enemy of the people by the very creatures who would sell their grannies to get into it.
 
If he waits until September/October, who knows what new horrors and disasters the Tories will inflict upon the UK. Please how many OAP's will slip and break a hip if it's icy or wet. I still think he will go for a May GE.
 
He’s right only if he is completely honest about pushing it through.
That it’s political and possible, he thinks, will swerve a severe hammering at the GE.
 
Check out "The Kids Are Alt Right" on BBC Sounds to make you reassess the Oldies are right wing myth.
 
As Ziggy alludes to, Sunak is appealing to the only demographic he has left, the extreme right. He is trying to avoid a humiliating landslide at the next GE by appealling to the only people he can. Unfortunately, that is the area that reform are targetting and that is easy for them to do. The Rwanda bill in it's current format will ensure that not a single refugee will be deported to Rwanda before a GE. The tories are not even planning to deport any. They have no planes. Commercial airlines have all said no and the MoD will not do it whilst there is a security risk. The tories could spend money removing the security risk, but have not, and don't plan to.

The tories have expended a huge amount of political capital on their flagship scheme, one that they know, will not work. In it's current form, lawyers will still represent refugee's and our own supreme court will uphold their claims, as they said when decalring the Rwanda scheme ileagal. The ECHR was only one of the elements and they said that even without that, the scheme is still ileagal.

Consider this, yesterday at PMQ's Starmer used 4 of his 5 questions asking about the Rwanda scheme, specifically about the 4.5k refugees earmarked for deportation who have gone missing. Traditionally Labour stay away from immigration because it is a tory strong suite. Starmer feels comfortable with this line of questioning because it no longer is. The best Sunak could come up with was a book that Stramer wrote on human right law that is required reading at law school. The tories are pointing out that Starmer was a very good lawyer.... on immigration. That stinks of desperation.

So to answer the question. No it wasn't astute. Sunak is leaving the middle ground to Labour and chasing the right where he is directly competing with Reform on a platform on which the tories have failed.
 
Nice clickbait thread title that for this Board. He is really unlikeable - he has never been tested at the ballot box. There far right don't really like him because they see him as a backstabber on Johnson. The majority positively find no positive attributes. His unfortunate manner feels like he is patronising us. He always talk like he is on a Ted Talk. Unless you a hardened red waller or a shire grey voter I don't see where his votes are going to come from. The clock is ticking on his time in office. He will leave it to the last possible moment - Oct or Nov my guess.
 
The sunak paradox...
The more he appeals to the far right, the more moderate they become as they align themselves with a man of colour.

A genius move for society as a whole. He, however, a dead cwat walking. I think thats what onthebob meant :)
 
I think the punt is a stunt and I hope Joe and Jane Bloggs sees it for what it is.

As with everything else though, it very much depends on the spin by the media put on the first flight out carrying the poor souls destined for Rawanda.

The rags will either declare it a triumph or the reality as the disaster it is. It will make every front page.

I heard we've accepted half a dozen asylum seekers from....... Rawanda.
Why isn't that fact headlined all over the press and social media?

Popularism will win the day and as a headline I think Sunak understands that.
That same popularism got the orange one and the fat blond fk in and they could return using the same spun eyecatching headlines.

It's all just so utterly depressing.
 
I don't think it's just Sunak. The Tories have been playing this game of demonising "invaders" and "illegals" for a long time whilst letting the asylum applications pile up intentionally. I believe that the letters of no confidence are in Sunak the man but whoever takes the Tories into the next general election, the party on the whole will still support this vile move.
 
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