Of we go again.
Are you seriously putting on a par Southgate with Jack Charlton.
That's even worse than comparing him to Venebles and Bobby Robson.
Im saying that if you are going to apply the logic that if you fail to win a trophy, then you are a failure, if you are going to be black and white like that, then you have to apply that logic evenly which means by the same logic Jack Charlton is also a failure both at club and international level.
It's not about comparing the two, but you're smart enough to know that already, surely? it's about showing how utterly rediculous the logic is that is applied to attack Southgate.
I shouldn't have to point this out of course, but people's perspective on southgate is so utterly skewed by the media witch hunt that sometimes it needs to be pointed out. familiarity breeds contempt, especially with England managers, I can't remember an england manager that hasn't had contempt, the biggest issue for Southgate is that it's happened in the digital age, where all objectiveness is lost to subjective ad hominem attacks based on clicks and popularity rather than logic, reality, facts, nuance and fairness. It'll happen to the next manager, but it's more than likely they won't be as successful as southgate.
Southgates biggest success has actually been with the soft skills side of the game, the psychology, mentoring young men to be professional and dedicated, building a team spirit, and pride. People think that kind of thing is easy, should be a given, but it really isn't and has often been Englands biggest failure. When he goes, it will be really, really difficult to get continuity of that, we'll probably revert to bitter factions, jealousy amongst players, individuals not teams, players that are disruptive being allowed back in and upsetting the apple cart, a blame culture and players reverting within their shells when it gets tough.