viv_andersons_nana
Well-known member
You can have a pop at me all you like mate. I’m not sulking. I’d much prefer Corbyn to Starmer but I’m far from averse to voting for KS. Corbyn has been nowhere near power or office for years. Tell me why Starmer is so good, honest, trustworthy. That’s all I’m interested in here.Look Corbyn's history, he's never coming back so you and those who are likeminded really need to get over it.
Starmer hasn't done anything because Labour isn't in power and hasn't been for 12 years. What part of that don't you understand?
It's pointless debating with you and others. Your mind's made up and it won't change unless you get your way. Are you a member? Who did you vote for in the leadership contest? What are you doing to change things other than sulking in the corner?
Are you saying that 60% of those who voted in Chester City yesterday are thick or something?
Leaders of the Opposition do not dictate Government policy, they have to be elected first.
The criticism of Starmer from some on here is ludicrous, someone the other day accused him of being an awful public speaker which is just juvenile.
The Labour Party doesn't belong to you, me or any individual. If you want to force change stop whining, get off your **** and do something positve.
What I’m saying is this - why would I or should I trust a man who has broken every promise he made during his leadership campaign? Who has promised to out-flank the right on right-wing policies? Who refuses to come out and support and/or fight for teachers, nurses, barristers, binmen and women, fire brigade staff, rail workers… why would I back this bloke? It doesn’t feel like he’s on my side. It doesn’t feel like he’s on any of our sides.
I’m not saying I won’t back him or vote for him by the way, I’m asking you to tell me why I should.
What was he saying last week? “Too many foreigners in the NHS… Too reliant on foreign people…”
YAWN. YAWN. YAWN. DOG WHISTLE. MURDOCH. F*CK OFF.
I’m my opinion, obvs.