Expat Smoggie
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That’s totally ridiculousMy mam just got an appointment for an mri after a possible stroke. October 2024! WTF
That’s totally ridiculousMy mam just got an appointment for an mri after a possible stroke. October 2024! WTF
They can. However there is a principle present, the private sector does not pay for the training and investment the NHS does.University education should be free. The country would be a lot better off for it.
I'm curious as to why people who work in the NHS cannot use the skills they've learnt to work for a private company?
Plus your comment about serving soliders not working for private companies whilst serving in the army is irrelevant to the conversation. That's a conflict of interest for starters, nevermind the security issues and the many other problems it would throw up.
You would have to define what properly funded is and how this would be done. Private health care particularly in social care has to exist, outsourcing has to be done. As a proportion of GDP we spend nearly 10% this was 2% in the seventies. The French and Germans spend more.The France and Germany outsource services heavily to the private sector as well.You’re missing the point. If the NHS was properly funded there would be no need for private health care and the leeches skimming money out of it repeatedly.
The flip side of this argument, of course, is how our NHS asset stripped trained staff from other countries.They can. However there is a principle present, the private sector does not pay for the training and investment the NHS does.
My Mrs chooses to work solely for the NHS as a principle. The NHS has paid for her experience and training, She is a NHS nurse, a nurse that has costs hundreds of thousands of pounds to develop for the NHS and society.
NHS staffs expertise can be protected by ring fencing expertise legally. You the private sector want to exploit these skills you should compensate the NHS for them, and staff cannot contractually leave/work for others within appropriate time frames - Something I could not do for a period with employers.
You would have to define what properly funded is and how this would be done. Private health care particularly in social care has to exist, outsourcing has to be done. As a proportion of GDP we spend nearly 10% this was 2% in the seventies. The French and Germans spend more.The France and Germany outsource services heavily to the private sector as well.
How much of GDP would be properly funded be 12, 13, 10, 15%?
Not all private health care is profit motivated. Charities are private and provide the NHS with hundreds of thousands of beds for instance.
The "Nasty Party" at their best.My mam just got an appointment for an mri after a possible stroke. October 2024! WTF
Social workers are employed by the local authorityGenuine question that I didn't feel worthy of its own thread.
Do social workers come under the umbrella of the NHS or the local council? A friend is having issues with a visitation rights to do with his young lad and some health issues he's had in the past. Who does he contact for help? The council or his team at the local health authority?
Have the recent council cuts affected their roles much or are they just busier?Social workers are employed by the local authority
Most of the stuff social workers do is a statutory responsibility so roles not really changed. Massive recruitment and retention issues though so lots of vacancies leading to busier caseloads etc. Much like many other sectors.Have the recent council cuts affected their roles much or are they just busier?
This graph does bring in to stark relief the underfunding of the NHS under the tories, and how much better it was running under labour.Vote Labour.
Well vote Labour if you can believe the stats published in that lefty yoghurt knitting rag the ... er [checks notes] Financial Times:
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A social worker is, or can be an extension of both. Social workers are the connetion between various services etc.Genuine question that I didn't feel worthy of its own thread.
Do social workers come under the umbrella of the NHS or the local council? A friend is having issues with a visitation rights to do with his young lad and some health issues he's had in the past. Who does he contact for help? The council or his team at the local health authority?
A social worker is, or can be an extension of both. Social workers are the connetion between various services etc.
In the case there if the child is in care, and has a social worker in place the parent can contact the social worker - They oversee the placement, and its efficiency. If there is no social worker in position contact the health authority.
The private sector does likewise. There is also a drain out of the Country - Australia, NZ, Canada, US ..The flip side of this argument, of course, is how our NHS asset stripped trained staff from other countries.
Yes, I am absoloutely sure the private sector does the same. I believe, prior to brexit, we were a net importer of medical skills. I think it was Phil Moorhouse who covered this a few years ago.The private sector does likewise. There is also a drain out of the Country - Australia, NZ, Canada, US ..