NHS waiting list

My experience recently has not been nearly as negative. From first complaining about my wrist in December last year to having a following up call from a physio, an in person appointment with a physio, an MRI scan, appointment with a consultant surgeon (which was cancelled at one point and put back a month), put on a waiting list, pre-op assessment and then an operation in September. I’m not sure if I was lucky and skipped most of the waiting list for surgery because of a cancellation?
 
I had a tight chest and felt sick whilst on a treadmill in February. So I stopped thinking 'feck I'm having a heart attack'.

After the missues moaning went to see a GP. He said I needed a CT scan to see 'what's going on'. I waited 4 months due to apparent covid backlog. I mean not bad considering I may have had a heart defect lol. Then the day before I received a phone call saying it was canceled due to lack of staff to operate it. Apparently coming from London to Portsmouth hospital.

So waited another 7 weeks before being seen. So 5 and a half months from seeing GP to actual scan. It came back saying I was fine. Thank god or I'd probably have had a heart attack waiting that long 😂
 
Its not just the NHS though is it. Its every single thing this tory band of idiots have touched in the last 10 years.

Show me something they haven't royally Fd, intentionally or through utter incompetence.

The good news is that their economic ideology is now in tatters.

Current tory inspired cost of living crisis could end up causing civil unrest and hasten their demise.

They know they are holed below the water line.

Proud workers picketing.
Tories still pocketing.

I'm thinking of selling up and moving to Normanby - apparently things are much better there under tory governance.

Up the Boro, and right up the grifters.
 
Randy said:
University education should be free. The country would be a lot better off for it.

I'm curious as to why people who work in the NHS cannot use the skills they've learnt to work for a private company?

Plus your comment about serving soliders not working for private companies whilst serving in the army is irrelevant to the conversation. That's a conflict of interest for starters, nevermind the security issues and the many other problems it would throw up.
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They can. However there is a principle present, the private sector does not pay for the training and investment the NHS does.

My Mrs chooses to work solely for the NHS as a principle. The NHS has paid for her experience and training, She is a NHS nurse, a nurse that has costs hundreds of thousands of pounds to develop for the NHS and society.

NHS staffs expertise can be protected by ring fencing expertise legally. You the private sector want to exploit these skills you should compensate the NHS for them, and staff cannot contractually leave/work for others within appropriate time frames - Something I could not do for a period with employers.

Huddboro said:
You’re missing the point. If the NHS was properly funded there would be no need for private health care and the leeches skimming money out of it repeatedly.
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You would have to define what properly funded is and how this would be done. Private health care particularly in social care has to exist, outsourcing has to be done. As a proportion of GDP we spend nearly 10% this was 2% in the seventies. The French and Germans spend more.The France and Germany outsource services heavily to the private sector as well.

How much of GDP would be properly funded be 12, 13, 10, 15%?

Not all private health care is profit motivated. Charities are private and provide the NHS with hundreds of thousands of beds for instance.
 
Pembroke said:
They can. However there is a principle present, the private sector does not pay for the training and investment the NHS does.

My Mrs chooses to work solely for the NHS as a principle. The NHS has paid for her experience and training, She is a NHS nurse, a nurse that has costs hundreds of thousands of pounds to develop for the NHS and society.

NHS staffs expertise can be protected by ring fencing expertise legally. You the private sector want to exploit these skills you should compensate the NHS for them, and staff cannot contractually leave/work for others within appropriate time frames - Something I could not do for a period with employers.


You would have to define what properly funded is and how this would be done. Private health care particularly in social care has to exist, outsourcing has to be done. As a proportion of GDP we spend nearly 10% this was 2% in the seventies. The French and Germans spend more.The France and Germany outsource services heavily to the private sector as well.

How much of GDP would be properly funded be 12, 13, 10, 15%?

Not all private health care is profit motivated. Charities are private and provide the NHS with hundreds of thousands of beds for instance.
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The flip side of this argument, of course, is how our NHS asset stripped trained staff from other countries.
 
Genuine question that I didn't feel worthy of its own thread.
Do social workers come under the umbrella of the NHS or the local council? A friend is having issues with a visitation rights to do with his young lad and some health issues he's had in the past. Who does he contact for help? The council or his team at the local health authority?
 
Randy said:
Genuine question that I didn't feel worthy of its own thread.
Do social workers come under the umbrella of the NHS or the local council? A friend is having issues with a visitation rights to do with his young lad and some health issues he's had in the past. Who does he contact for help? The council or his team at the local health authority?
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Social workers are employed by the local authority 👍
 
Randy said:
Have the recent council cuts affected their roles much or are they just busier?
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Most of the stuff social workers do is a statutory responsibility so roles not really changed. Massive recruitment and retention issues though so lots of vacancies leading to busier caseloads etc. Much like many other sectors.

I’ve been in social work for almost 30 years, never known it so busy. Lots of factors leading to stress on families with all the subsequent issues, at the same time as resources getting scarcer. Big shortage of social workers too, we’ve recently advertised a social work post at almost 40k - advertised 4 times now, not a single applicant on all 4 occasions.

Not a good mix.
 
newusername said:
Vote Labour.

Well vote Labour if you can believe the stats published in that lefty yoghurt knitting rag the ... er [checks notes] Financial Times:

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This graph does bring in to stark relief the underfunding of the NHS under the tories, and how much better it was running under labour.

Oh I also liked the term lefty yogurt knitting rag
 
Randy said:
Genuine question that I didn't feel worthy of its own thread.
Do social workers come under the umbrella of the NHS or the local council? A friend is having issues with a visitation rights to do with his young lad and some health issues he's had in the past. Who does he contact for help? The council or his team at the local health authority?
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A social worker is, or can be an extension of both. Social workers are the connetion between various services etc.

In the case there if the child is in care, and has a social worker in place the parent can contact the social worker - They oversee the placement, and its efficiency. If there is no social worker in position contact the health authority.
 
The ICB will just redirect to the local authority. Very few social workers employed within health these days.
Pembroke said:
A social worker is, or can be an extension of both. Social workers are the connetion between various services etc.

In the case there if the child is in care, and has a social worker in place the parent can contact the social worker - They oversee the placement, and its efficiency. If there is no social worker in position contact the health authority.
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Pembroke said:
The private sector does likewise. There is also a drain out of the Country - Australia, NZ, Canada, US ..
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Yes, I am absoloutely sure the private sector does the same. I believe, prior to brexit, we were a net importer of medical skills. I think it was Phil Moorhouse who covered this a few years ago.
 
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