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BoroMart said:
I’ve watched the video.

Any Labour leader will be fighting against a right wing compliant media, the Labour leader will always have to avoid the media traps or lose votes be it Corbyn more to the left or Starmer more centrist.

Regarding this woman’s comments, I don’t agree with them so it’s pointless debating if that’s desirable in a Pm, because it doesn’t really apply.
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Fighting against? The "right wing compliant media" love Starmer. He doesn't have to fight at all.

If you've watched the video and thought Starmers being attacked you haven't understood it.
 
Scrote said:
Can you explain how I loose a sense of rationality?

I'm sure you wouldn't be so foolish as to make a typographic error whilst being so fastidiously concerned with the correct use of language.
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I didn’t accuse you of a typographic error
 
BoroMart said:
I didn’t accuse you of a typographic error
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I didn't suggest that you did.

But you appear to believe that every post is written with a calculated use of language that can be forensically dissected with reference to clinical definitions etc.

Maybe just accept that there are different ways to use language. Calling the people laughing along with a politician blatantly conning the electorate (in this case Starmer and the Labour membership) psychopaths, is perfectly acceptable in common-usage.

Everyone but LessoftheLip (assuming it was about Starmer) and yourself (expecting a clinical definition) seems to have understood my original post.
 
BoroMart said:
The right wing media do not love Starmer
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They don’t have to love him, just tolerate him. He became DPP. To some extent that puts him on the inside. He’s probably the most ‘insider’ Labour leader ever. Shouldn’t make a difference, and probably won’t. If you want a change of government the choice is simple…Him or another piece of atrocious shoite from the dregs left in the Nat-Cons
 
Scrote said:
I didn't suggest that you did.
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Now you’re just gaslighting, I didn’t say anything about a typographic error you did.

You accused someone of being a psycho, you’ve claimed to have clarified who that is, but I don’t see where you’ve done that.

You’ve been asked to clarify but just played silly games rather than just good old honest debate.

Words are important, clarity of message is important. Maybe you need to accept that.

The idea that calling somebody a psychopath now doesn’t mean you are calling them a psychopath is just Lilly livered nonsense.
 
bumface said:
I see the Starmtrooper cultists are all piling in on Scrote again. I expect this kind of behaviour from LOTL but I am a bit disappointed in TC.
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Not sure who the starmtroopers are. I’ll take him because he’s the only viable alternative to sunak and more destruction of the state.
 
Ziggy said:
They don’t have to love him, just tolerate him. He became DPP. To some extent that puts him on the inside. He’s probably the most ‘insider’ Labour leader ever. Shouldn’t make a difference, and probably won’t. If you want a change of government the choice is simple…Him or another piece of atrocious shoite from the dregs left in the Nat-Cons
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He’s miles away from sunak and liz, and Boris. He’s an adult, boring, yes, moderate, yes…but far better than where we are today and I’ll take that since it’s the only alternative to more of this last 14 years
 
BoroMart said:
Not sure who the starmtroopers are. I’ll take him because he’s the only viable alternative to sunak and more destruction of the state.
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I'd take him and then drive him to Merthyr Tydfil and leave him there. That's how much I hate the bloke.
 
Scrote said:
It was LessoftheLip who brought Starmer into it.

Maybe because he loses all sense of rationality when it comes to anything that he thinks might involve Starmer?

You'd have to ask him. I neither know, nor care.
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But you care enough to put me on ignore, tell the whole forum what you've done but then reply to my posts 🤔
 
BoroMart said:
Unfortunately we have a compliant media that have frightened the public of paying for change. So , in reality change will be limited until we get the Overton window moving left again
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That window has a lot to answer for. If I ever get my hands on it I'm going to kick its head in.
 
BoroMart said:
Unfortunately we have a compliant media that have frightened the public of paying for change. So , in reality change will be limited until we get the Overton window moving left again
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No, once in power the changes can be made regardless of media response, once people see their fortunes change they'll continue to back them.

The big danger for Labour will be when they stop progressing and complacency and ego take over.
 
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