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Agree about the Swansea right back looked very good.

O^Brian needs to be looking to do more than safe 5yard passes

Bloody hell do you have a job in PR at the club. Just accept its a message board people will have their own opinions on players. Also nobody expected us to give Chelsea a football lesson, so stop with the ridiculous statements and childish insults.

Agree for some reason any criticism of Engel is not allowed on here. For me he mostly doesn't want the ball and when he does get it he either gives it back to the centre half or panics and hits it aimlessly into midfield area. He is not Championship standard.

Really hope you are right, I just don't see it.

Mmmm......lost in translation maybe, appreciate your first language may not be English.

Absolute lack of any pace really stood out tonight. Not quick enough to play Championship football.

TBF I thought we paid 3mill so 4.5 mill would have been a good return As you say 1.5mill would be to low.

I don't see anyone pulling the team up the pitch with him as Howson does.

Hardly set the world alight.....if we get 50% more than we paid its good business

That's the situation when we play without Howson and Jones. If we are looking to freshen the squad in this transfer window, then we need to find back up for these two players.

Class player Howson my MOM

Both give the impression to me that they are not players who are always 100% committed to the cause. Appreciate they are young still but giving the impression of a lack of effort isn't a good sign for the future.

Some really impressive build up play and then absolute panic sets in once we hit the 18yard box.

If Carrick left would definitely have Mogga back. Despite some bad luck of late and lack of a CF Sunderland play some excellent football.

Another shout for Howson, brilliant last night.

Best I have seen Lath play tonight, great work rate and never let the defenders settle. Reminded me of an Almiron type player, let's just hope he starts to chip in with a few goals.

Yes looked like he was very nervous in first half. Much better second lets hope tonight gives him a massive boost of confidence going forward. So impressed with Hackney tonight looking to be some player if he keeps on improving.

Have we ever started a season with two full backs worse than these two. One cannot kick a ball straight (Engel) the other is scared stiff to have the ball anywhere near him ,(VDB). Someone behind the scenes at The Club must be thinking what the hell have I done recommending these two clowns.

Potter would be excellent but would imagine he will pick up a job in the Premier at some point.