A look at Boro's loan signings since coming down in 2017

viv_andersons_nana

viv_andersons_nana

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There's obviously lots of talk around loan signings at the moment and a lot seem to think they're the way forward for Boro. I've just made a list of loan players to join Boro since we were relegated in 2017 and you'd have to say that maybe the loan market isn't all it's cracked up to be. We've had 20 different players on loan in five seasons. 22 in total if you count Mo Besic and Patrick Roberts, who both had two spells with us. That number will go up to at least 22 different players this week when Steffen and Giles play against West Brom.

Danny Batth, Connor Roberts, Lewis Baker, Jack Harrison, Mo Besic, Rajiv Van La Parra, Jordan Hugill, Sam McQueen, Patrick Roberts, Ravel Morrison, Harold Moukoudi, Lukas Nmecha, Neeskens Kebano, Yannick Bolasie, Marcus Bettinelli, Andraz Sporar, Flo Balogun, Aaron Connolly, James Lea Siliki, Oriel Hernandez.

That's quite the list. How many have been an actual success? I would say absolutely none of them.
 
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You could argue that Bettinelli was something of a 'success' because he was first choice and played a lot of games, despite the fact he was absolute garbage. Maybe he was the least garbage we could get at the time though.
 
viv_andersons_nana said:
There's obviously lots of talk around loan signings at the moment and a lot seem to think they're the way forward for Boro. I've just made a list of loan players to join Boro since we were relegated in 2017 and you'd have to say that maybe the loan market isn't all it's cracked up to be. We've had 20 different players on loan in five seasons. 22 in total if you count Mo Besic and Patrick Roberts, who both had two spells with us. That number will go up to at least 22 different players this week when Steffen and Giles play against West Brom.

Danny Batth, Connor Roberts, Lewis Baker, Jack Harrison, Mo Besic, Rajiv Van La Parra, Jordan Hugill, Sam McQueen, Patrick Roberts, Ravel Morrison, Harold Moukoudi, Lukas Nmecha, Neeskens Kebano, Yannick Bolasie, Marcus Bettinelli, Andraz Sporar, Flo Balogun, Aaron Connolly, James Lea Siliki, Oriel Hernandez.

That's quite the list. How many have been an actual success? I would say absolutely none of them.
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I liked Mo Besic, Patrick Roberts (fitst time) Kebano, Bolasie and for the first half a season Sporar.
 
TheYorkshireTerrier said:
Patrick Roberts was also a success the first time, played a big part in keeping us up.
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Disagree.

If scoring in one game makes you a success, then Connolly and Balogun were successes.

If we'd lost against Reading, the one game Roberts did anything, we'd still have stayed up by a point.
 
Some loans are excellent, some disastrous. It's the same with transfers as we know all too well. I think it all depends on who you have on your books already and how well you do.
As you saw with Forest, they performed brilliantly once they'd settled into the season.
Fingers crossed this season's loans will be in the excellent category and we'll reflect that in our results.
 
You could argue that Lukas Nmecha has been a success, but not with us.

I really don't get what it is with loan players. You don't build a team with loan players. They go back and you get others. And at the same time you prop up what is effectively a buy-or-build-to-let economy run by the so-called 'big' clubs.
 
viv_andersons_nana said:
There's obviously lots of talk around loan signings at the moment and a lot seem to think they're the way forward for Boro. I've just made a list of loan players to join Boro since we were relegated in 2017 and you'd have to say that maybe the loan market isn't all it's cracked up to be. We've had 20 different players on loan in five seasons. 22 in total if you count Mo Besic and Patrick Roberts, who both had two spells with us. That number will go up to at least 22 different players this week when Steffen and Giles play against West Brom.

Danny Batth, Connor Roberts, Lewis Baker, Jack Harrison, Mo Besic, Rajiv Van La Parra, Jordan Hugill, Sam McQueen, Patrick Roberts, Ravel Morrison, Harold Moukoudi, Lukas Nmecha, Neeskens Kebano, Yannick Bolasie, Marcus Bettinelli, Andraz Sporar, Flo Balogun, Aaron Connolly, James Lea Siliki, Oriel Hernandez.

That's quite the list. How many have been an actual success? I would say absolutely none of them.
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Danny Batth. 7
Connor Roberts 3
Lewis Baker 4
Jack Harrison 5
Mo Besic 6
Rajiv Van La Parra 2
, Jordan Hugill 3
, Sam McQueen 6
Patrick Roberts 4
Ravel Morrison 1,
Harold Moukoud 3
Lukas Nmecha 3
Neeskens Kebano 5
Yannick Bolasie 6
Marcus Bettinelli 4
Andraz Sporar 5
Flo Balogun 4
, Aaron Connolly 0
James Lea Siliki 1
Oriel Hernandez 7

Shameful list some unlucky Sam McQueen some not utilised properly jack Harrison, some gone on to success other places nmecha. But most should never have been recruited especially Aaron Connolly
 
dooderooni said:
Some loans are excellent, some disastrous. It's the same with transfers as we know all too well. I think it all depends on who you have on your books already and how well you do.
As you saw with Forest, they performed brilliantly once they'd settled into the season.
Fingers crossed this season's loans will be in the excellent category and we'll reflect that in our results.
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Looking at that list very few are excellent most don't work
 
Glover_elbow said:
Danny Batth. 7
Connor Roberts 3
Lewis Baker 4
Jack Harrison 5
Mo Besic 6
Rajiv Van La Parra 2
, Jordan Hugill 3
, Sam McQueen 6
Patrick Roberts 4
Ravel Morrison 1,
Harold Moukoud 3
Lukas Nmecha 3
Neeskens Kebano 5
Yannick Bolasie 6
Marcus Bettinelli 4
Andraz Sporar 5
Flo Balogun 4
, Aaron Connolly 0
James Lea Siliki 1
Oriel Hernandez 7

Shameful list some unlucky Sam McQueen some not utilised properly jack Harrison, some gone on to success other places nmecha. But most should never have been recruited especially Aaron Connolly
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Not sure how you could rate Hernandez as the best of the lot with a 7?

He was massively underwhelming, his only contribution being a tap in from a keeper slipping and a huge top off celebration.
 
Jack Harrison went on to win promotion as an important member of the Leeds team. Not playing him was just Pulis being an idiot. Did we have him at the same time as Traore? Imagine how dangerous traore would have been if they had to look after our other side as well.

Our loan signings since relegation have been bad. Prior to that we've used the market well. Fuchs, carbone, zenden, centre back from Chelsea, centre back who scored in the play offs, Bamford, Frederick's, Kalas, Geremi.

A lot of our post relegation signings have been bad also. I would put that down to the manager a lot of times. Our scouting team have unearthed some real gems. The less we spend the better they seem to do.
 
Sheriff_John_Bunnell_ret said:
Jack Harrison went on to win promotion as an important member of the Leeds team. Not playing him was just Pulis being an idiot. Did we have him at the same time as Traore? Imagine how dangerous traore would have been if they had to look after our other side as well.

Our loan signings since relegation have been bad. Prior to that we've used the market well. Fuchs, carbone, zenden, centre back from Chelsea, centre back who scored in the play offs, Bamford, Frederick's, Kalas, Geremi.

A lot of our post relegation signings have been bad al. I would put that down to the manager a lot of times. Our scouting team have unearthed some real gems. The less we spend the better they seem to do.
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I said he wasn't utilised properly for us he was very average mainly down to pulis
 
Capybara said:
You could argue that Lukas Nmecha has been a success, but not with us.

I really don't get what it is with loan players. You don't build a team with loan players. They go back and you get others. And at the same time you prop up what is effectively a buy-or-build-to-let economy run by the so-called 'big' clubs.
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This is the issue. It's fascinating how the loan 'market' has changed in the 30 years I've been going to watch us. Back then we had Colin Walsh in a swap with Kernaghan(strange deal, even back then). Andy Dibble came in because we had no senior 'keepers available. Later it was Gittens, Rab Shannon, Brian Marwood et al, back when we had an injury crisis and wanted a senior body in for a month or so. We might have a couple of our kids out loan further down the pyramid, though I don't remember players like Stampy and Barron and Moore going out before getting into our senior group.

Now it's a whole industry. Top flight clubs loaning each other players just seems weird. The same handful of top flight clubs having so much power and influence, or even more than they had. Sort of ties into that thread yesterday about youths and the absurd amounts of money people are paying for kids now. Clubs have 'loan player managers'. Whole departments designed to control of much of the game as possible.
 
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