Absolutely dreadful...

newyddion

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Folks going on about Howson (who was great) and Tav who is out best player. Payero was total Garbage for the first half!! Still poor imo until the substitutions came on.
 
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zorro_mfc

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Payero needs to stop hiding, but he had a great second half. Can't believe anyone wouldn't see that. He's got the talent, hopefully that second half will give him some more confidence.
I dont think he was hiding at all, the others weren’t passing to him as he was screaming for the ball a few times.
 

rbmfc1985

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I dont think he was hiding at all, the others weren’t passing to him as he was screaming for the ball a few times.
I don't agree at all, many times in the first half a player would be looking for a pass and he wouldn't show for it and didn't look like he wanted it. Other times they'd give him the ball with a chance to bring it forward and he'd just play the ball straight back to them.

Second half he seemed to really grow in confidence and that should help him. I think it is a confidence issue that will only be solved by the things he's trying starting to come off. You could tell how happy he was to get that assist and how happy the rest of the team were as well. That should, hopefully, get him going.
 

Box To Box

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And thats the performance and Martin Payero.
Yes today was awful, but a wins a win. As for Payero I was surprised he came out for the second half, because he didn’t look interested in the first half. The second half he did get into it a bit more, but let’s hope he gets plenty of minutes in, over the next few games and some good results with it.
 

davidmills

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Newy do you watch the game?
Tav was awful today, gave the ball away continually, tried to shoot several times when a pass to someone in a better position was on. His corners and free kicks also abysmal.
Payero although poor first half had a decent second half and capped it off by creating 2nd goal.
Agree Howson looks better defending at the back rather than in midfield but some of his lumps forward were worse than Fry’s
 

Borodrew

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He shown more vision and composure (the assist) in 3-4 instances in the second half than the majority of them have all season.
 

jonny_greenings_sock

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On the ball he showed some real quality but I watched his positioning through my fingers in the first half particularly.

I don’t think he was hiding, I think he’s playing to instructions and either doesn’t know what role he’s supposed to be playing or the instructions are just mental.

In all his games you can see him deliberately check himself and get ahead of the play when the other team are attacking, which I think is Warnock’s man for man system in midfield, and is the reason why we look non-existent in midfield, because the midfielders disappear to find their man rather than follow the play.

When we do have the ball, he gets far too far forwards or gets in people’s way - he’s obviously got it in him to be a technical midfielder, dictating play or carrying the ball forwards, but looks on a totally different wavelength to the rest of the team. I thought he looked lost for most of the first half and no-one was even looking for him.

Much better after Jones came on which balanced the team a bit more and he sat a bit deeper, so got on the ball with more time a lot more and some serious quality balls as well as the assist.

All that’s on the manager, frankly.
 

newyddion

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Newy do you watch the game?
Tav was awful today, gave the ball away continually, tried to shoot several times when a pass to someone in a better position was on. His corners and free kicks also abysmal.
Payero although poor first half had a decent second half and capped it off by creating 2nd goal.
Agree Howson looks better defending at the back rather than in midfield but some of his lumps forward were worse than Fry’s
Too many times we’ve wasted chances by players not taking a punt. I like to see it. How man times was Payero stood in front of a player asking for the ball, so we had no advantage.. then he’s just pass it back anyway. He drifted off the man he was supposed to be marking in order to wander off into no mans land nearer to another player (usually with the ball)
 

asredastheycome

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Folks going on about Howson (who was great) and Tav who is out best player. Payero was total Garbage for the first half!! Still poor imo until the substitutions came on.
Were at the match newy. Tav was poor as he as been since he came back from injury. Howson not much better. Only Bamba MOTM, Payero second half and Jones when he came on come out with any credit.
 

newyddion

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Were at the match newy. Tav was poor as he as been since he came back from injury. Howson not much better. Only Bamba MOTM, Payero second half and Jones when he came on come out with any credit.
I was very much at the match. It’s
Bamba was easy MOTM McNair was good, Crooks was great. Payero was poor until the subs came on. Hernandez was great too.
 
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