Another angry voice

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Another angry voice

Today hundreds of British Gas workers are being fired because they refused to sign up to a new employment contract that reduces their pay and working conditions.

Many of them have given decades of service to the company, but their reward for this loyal service is the same as the rest of the workforce, being subject to outrageous "fire and rehire" tactics aimed at reducing their wages, and diminishing their rights and working conditions.

Opposing this scandalous attack on workers' rights should be absolute bread and butter to the Labour Party, but the party's abstention of a leader has been basically invisible on the issue.

Aside from a single Tweet all the way back in January, Keir Starmer has not mentioned this full scale assault on workers' rights once. And even that Tweet took the form of an inept and impotent demand that the private owners of British Gas come back to the negotiation table, that clearly went entirely unheeded, given the hundreds of layoffs going on this week.

Labour shouldn't just be siding with all workers by vehemently opposing "fire and rehire" practices, they should be defining this scandal as yet another malignant symptom of the radically right-wing privatisation agenda.

This is the position they should be taking: Corporate profiteers forcing workers to choose between worse conditions or the sack is utterly immoral, and it wouldn't be allowed to happen if vital utilities like energy, water, and transport were brought back into public ownership.

This is an obvious line to take because not only does it clearly establish the party as being firmly on the side of workers, it also centres renationalisation policies that have overwhelming support among the British public.

But the Labour leader doesn't do this because he's already ripped up the 10 pledges that he used to trick the party membership into voting him in as leader.

Here's the exact wording of Starmer's Pledge 5: "Public services should be in public hands, not making profits for shareholders. Support common ownership of rail, mail, energy and water; end outsourcing in our NHS, local government and justice system".

He was elected leader on the basis that he would oppose corporate profiteering and promote public ownership, but when faced with the ideal opportunity to call out the grotesque profiteering of a private utility company, and call for renationalisation, he's outright refusing to do it.

Having repeatedly proved that he lied his way into position, is it any wonder Keir Starmer's personal approval ratings have gone through the floor?

What's even the point of a Labour Party that doesn't properly stand up for workers rights, and refuses to make the case for democratically accountable not-for-profit public ownership of vital national infrastructure and services?

If you're a British Gas customer, today would be a good day to switch your service provider to a company that doesn't use 'fire and rehire' tactics to attack their own workforce.
 
His whole approach appears to be to stay quiet until covid passes and then go on the offensive about how badly it was handled in around about 2023. TBF, the next election will be won and lost on that, as well as the repercussions of Brexit.
 
Another angry voice

Today hundreds of British Gas workers are being fired because they refused to sign up to a new employment contract that reduces their pay and working conditions.

Many of them have given decades of service to the company, but their reward for this loyal service is the same as the rest of the workforce, being subject to outrageous "fire and rehire" tactics aimed at reducing their wages, and diminishing their rights and working conditions.

Opposing this scandalous attack on workers' rights should be absolute bread and butter to the Labour Party, but the party's abstention of a leader has been basically invisible on the issue.

Aside from a single Tweet all the way back in January, Keir Starmer has not mentioned this full scale assault on workers' rights once. And even that Tweet took the form of an inept and impotent demand that the private owners of British Gas come back to the negotiation table, that clearly went entirely unheeded, given the hundreds of layoffs going on this week.

Labour shouldn't just be siding with all workers by vehemently opposing "fire and rehire" practices, they should be defining this scandal as yet another malignant symptom of the radically right-wing privatisation agenda.

This is the position they should be taking: Corporate profiteers forcing workers to choose between worse conditions or the sack is utterly immoral, and it wouldn't be allowed to happen if vital utilities like energy, water, and transport were brought back into public ownership.

This is an obvious line to take because not only does it clearly establish the party as being firmly on the side of workers, it also centres renationalisation policies that have overwhelming support among the British public.

But the Labour leader doesn't do this because he's already ripped up the 10 pledges that he used to trick the party membership into voting him in as leader.

Here's the exact wording of Starmer's Pledge 5: "Public services should be in public hands, not making profits for shareholders. Support common ownership of rail, mail, energy and water; end outsourcing in our NHS, local government and justice system".

He was elected leader on the basis that he would oppose corporate profiteering and promote public ownership, but when faced with the ideal opportunity to call out the grotesque profiteering of a private utility company, and call for renationalisation, he's outright refusing to do it.

Having repeatedly proved that he lied his way into position, is it any wonder Keir Starmer's personal approval ratings have gone through the floor?

What's even the point of a Labour Party that doesn't properly stand up for workers rights, and refuses to make the case for democratically accountable not-for-profit public ownership of vital national infrastructure and services?

If you're a British Gas customer, today would be a good day to switch your service provider to a company that doesn't use 'fire and rehire' tactics to attack their own workforce.
You're aiming at the wrong target there. Whilst starmer may or may not be ineffective, I don't know, one thing is for sure this practice isn't his doing.
 
I'm impressed they still have final salary pensions at British Gas. Can't be many private companies left doing that.

Also, the OP isn't strictly right in that base pay stays the same, but hours go up from 37 to 40 a week. The last company I worked for did the same. They were an American company who refused to deal with unions.

An overhaul of UK employment rights is the only solution, but that won't happen under a Tory government. Labour aren't the enemy here, unless a future Labour government does nothing.
 
Labour put forward an opposition day motion in January that would ban fire and rehire but it was ignored by the Tories.

Keir Starmer has on many occasions stated fire and rehire should be made illegal, even Boris Johnson said it was wrong but the latter has the power to act yet does nothing.

But rather than criticise the current government that's been in power for a decade and continues to ignore this abhorrent tactic, the OP blames Labour and Keir Starmer.
 
No mention of the GMB Union either. I mean, what the hell as it been doing for its members?

It seems to me the GMB has been entirely complicit with British Gas.
 
No mention of the GMB Union either. I mean, what the hell as it been doing for its members?

It seems to me the GMB has been entirely complicit with British Gas.

There's been strikes since it was announced, GMB have been negotiating with BG but not much they can do if they refuse to budge and are not doing anything that's technically illegal.

Mass strikes have not been considered for obvious reasons.
 
I'm impressed they still have final salary pensions at British Gas. Can't be many private companies left doing that.

Also, the OP isn't strictly right in that base pay stays the same, but hours go up from 37 to 40 a week. The last company I worked for did the same. They were an American company who refused to deal with unions.

An overhaul of UK employment rights is the only solution, but that won't happen under a Tory government. Labour aren't the enemy here, unless a future Labour government does nothing.
If the Parliamentary Labour party does not make a big stink over this, then yes, they are just as much an enemy to working people as the Tories. If we wait till the next Labour government to find out if they're going to do something, it will be too late, and these practices will be the norm.

I remember Thatcher introduced a lot of anti union legislation which significantly weakened the unions. When Blair had his landslide in 97 he had the opportunity to reverse this legislation but for some reason choose not to. 😡
 
The OP isn't so much blaming Starmer as lamenting his lack of opposition in this matter, and he is absolutely correct. We know for a fact that the Tories will always sit back and watch as workers rights and conditions are attacked - that's what they do - but if Starmer wishes to hold onto a thread of credibility he should retain at least one of his 10 promises to Labour voters. I would prefer him to keep to all ten pledges but we already know that that isn't going to happen.
 
The OP isn't so much blaming Starmer as lamenting his lack of opposition in this matter, and he is absolutely correct. We know for a fact that the Tories will always sit back and watch as workers rights and conditions are attacked - that's what they do - but if Starmer wishes to hold onto a thread of credibility he should retain at least one of his 10 promises to Labour voters. I would prefer him to keep to all ten pledges but we already know that that isn't going to happen.
Certainly not blaming the government either
 
Certainly not blaming the government either
I said in my post that this is what the Tories do. It is expected of them. You could take a scattergun approach to this and attack everybody in a single post but then the point would be lost that Labour are supposed to defend the workers, and they are not. If Starmer had one drop of socialist blood in his veins he would be all over this but he hasn't so he won't. Only if and when the focus group tell him it would be judicious to act will he do anything.
 
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