Anyone else seen the increased death rates in Australia?

Brian Marwood

Brian Marwood

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I seem to spend a lot of time arguing with people about the vaccinations and that they surely couldn’t impact on health yet this article does leave a lot of unanswered questions. Even politicians are demanding answers.



“In 2021, when the smaller states had virtually no cases of Covid. Yet despite this, deaths jumped 5.4 per cent from the year before for the country,” Senator Rennick said in a recent statement.

“This increase happened from May onwards one month after the start of the vaccine rollout. What’s significant however is that the smaller states had a higher jump in deaths even though they had no Covid.

All age groups experienced excess deaths, with a notable rise among females under 44, but the number and rate were highest among people over 65 years of age.

Additionally, a report released in January showed a shocking 17 per cent increase in Australians dying from a heart attack, compared to a regular year.
 
The trouble is separating fact from fiction. I was interested when two mates and a colleague who you wouldn’t put at risk had heart attacks. A good mate said the first two were due to Covid vaccines when it subsequently turns out one had a family history and the other was just one of those things.
 
Brian Marwood said:
I seem to spend a lot of time arguing with people about the vaccinations and that they surely couldn’t impact on health yet this article does leave a lot of unanswered questions. Even politicians are demanding answers.



“In 2021, when the smaller states had virtually no cases of Covid. Yet despite this, deaths jumped 5.4 per cent from the year before for the country,” Senator Rennick said in a recent statement.

“This increase happened from May onwards one month after the start of the vaccine rollout. What’s significant however is that the smaller states had a higher jump in deaths even though they had no Covid.

All age groups experienced excess deaths, with a notable rise among females under 44, but the number and rate were highest among people over 65 years of age.

Additionally, a report released in January showed a shocking 17 per cent increase in Australians dying from a heart attack, compared to a regular year.
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Relax.
It’s been discussed and debunked many times.
A 10 second google search brought this up and I can’t be bothered to trawl through the other stuff saying exactly the same thing.

apnews.com

Spike in deaths in Australia from COVID illnesses, not vaccine

CLAIM: Australia is seeing its sharpest rise in deaths in 80 years because of the coronavirus vaccine. AP’S ASSESSMENT: False. While a recent analysis found that the country saw a higher than expected number of deaths in 2022, it also concluded coronavirus vaccines weren’t the cause...
apnews.com apnews.com
 
Brian Marwood said:
I seem to spend a lot of time arguing with people about the vaccinations and that they surely couldn’t impact on health yet this article does leave a lot of unanswered questions. Even politicians are demanding answers.



“In 2021, when the smaller states had virtually no cases of Covid. Yet despite this, deaths jumped 5.4 per cent from the year before for the country,” Senator Rennick said in a recent statement.

“This increase happened from May onwards one month after the start of the vaccine rollout. What’s significant however is that the smaller states had a higher jump in deaths even though they had no Covid.

All age groups experienced excess deaths, with a notable rise among females under 44, but the number and rate were highest among people over 65 years of age.

Additionally, a report released in January showed a shocking 17 per cent increase in Australians dying from a heart attack, compared to a regular year.
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and from the same news site, the day after it pusblished the story you linked -

‘Leading Australian health experts have torn to shreds a sensational claim that a spike in deaths were caused by Covid jabs.’

 
I apologise to the OP but this site was littered with them during covid.

The reality is no one knows the long term
Impact but sadly it was better than the alternative
 
Brian Marwood said:
I seem to spend a lot of time arguing with people about the vaccinations and that they surely couldn’t impact on health yet this article does leave a lot of unanswered questions. Even politicians are demanding answers.



“In 2021, when the smaller states had virtually no cases of Covid. Yet despite this, deaths jumped 5.4 per cent from the year before for the country,” Senator Rennick said in a recent statement.

“This increase happened from May onwards one month after the start of the vaccine rollout. What’s significant however is that the smaller states had a higher jump in deaths even though they had no Covid.

All age groups experienced excess deaths, with a notable rise among females under 44, but the number and rate were highest among people over 65 years of age.

Additionally, a report released in January showed a shocking 17 per cent increase in Australians dying from a heart attack, compared to a regular year.
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If you tell people not to take exercise or go to work, not to meet friends or be sociable, not even meeting family - it's no surprise that heart attacks increase. Especially if (which I don't know) they ran the same campaign as our government encouraging people not to try and see a doctor unless you were already dead.
 
There's more and more suggestive evidence that massively dosing with Vitamin D will combat Covid - but whether that is the initial variant or the new strains - or both, I have no idea.
 
If there's any one underlying cause of the increase in heart attack deaths, all the medical evidence points to it being much more likely to be due to Covid itself, than vaccinations.

Even though there is some evidence of a rise in the percentage risk of some sorts of heart issues from vaccinations (mainly myocarditis and pericarditis of a mild and temporary nature) it's a relatively small percentage when compared to the increased risk of heart problems from the coronavirus itself

As of August 2022 it was estimated that at least 65% of Australians had been infected with Covid (so it's obviously higher than that now) and infection with Covid is known to increase the risk of heart attacks, as mentioned in the link below.

COVID-19 Surges Linked to Spike in Heart Attacks
 
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dsr-burnley said:
If you tell people not to take exercise or go to work, not to meet friends or be sociable, not even meeting family - it's no surprise that heart attacks increase. Especially if (which I don't know) they ran the same campaign as our government encouraging people not to try and see a doctor unless you were already dead.
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If there is a global pandemic with a novel virus that is known to cause an increased incidence of heart problems …. It’s no surprise that heart attacks increase.
 
swordtrombonefish said:
There's more and more suggestive evidence that massively dosing with Vitamin D will combat Covid - but whether that is the initial variant or the new strains - or both, I have no idea.
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I’m afraid the impact of vitamin D has been massively overblown. It’s a shame because it’s such a cheap and readily available drug, it would have been brilliant if it did work, but a lot of the studies showing it is some miracle cure have been overblown.
I should add that I was a big hoper for there being some truth to the vitamin D stuff but ultimately, it’s not really been proven. Here is a short video explaining how some of the analysis is misrepresented -


www.cnn.com

Vitamin D won't protect you from Covid or respiratory infections, studies say | CNN

Boosting vitamin D levels in adults during the pandemic was not associated with protection against Covid-19 or respiratory tract infections such as colds or the flu, according to two large clinical trials.
www.cnn.com www.cnn.com

 
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Jedi boro said:
I apologise to the OP but this site was littered with them during covid.

The reality is no one knows the long term
Impact but sadly it was better than the alternative
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Is that long term vaccine issue or long term covid issue?

No vaccine has shown any issues develop beyond about 6 weeks. We know covid effects most bodily organs in some way, especially the brain and heart.
 
Greaseman said:
Chat with Laughing. He will tell you the Tories murdered them.
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Still don't like that uncomfortable truth. You can make snide little comments or you can go and look at the academic article published and argue the facts. as a tory shill you won't because you cannot.
 
Laughing said:
Still don't like that uncomfortable truth. You can make snide little comments or you can go and look at the academic article published and argue the facts. as a tory shill you won't because you cannot.
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😀 So people who fo not subscribe to a crackpot theory is a Tory shill ?😀
You must be off your rocker mate.
 
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