BaronSmoggie
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What I don't get about Audi advertising this on TV, is that its a concept. They aren't making it.
At last a proper EV fit for purpose
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ThePrisoner
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Why do I only see TV adverts for 'luxury' EVs that are too big, too heavy and too full of useless tech junk than they need to be, if the object is to reduce environmental impact and eliminate GHG emissions?
It's all virtue signalling and humble bragging for most EV owners.
It's all virtue signalling and humble bragging for most EV owners.
Glover_elbow
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funny enough i was really irked in the summer by the neighbours getting milked delivered and waking me up, its really environmentally friendly until its delivered at 2am in a bloody noisy diesel truck like this
Laughing
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Thats a very good point Prisoner, well played!
ThePrisoner
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I had the same thing from the same dairy for a while, as I imagine all but the profoundly deaf did in every road it went down. Absolutely ridiculous that it is legal (assuming it is).
ForssAwakens
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Redwurzel
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I bought 2 new tyres today - they were £99 each. (for my car you can pay anything from £65 to £145 depending on the brand and fitter). I tend to go for higher quality tyre but not the very top brands)
The tyre business owner said he was fitting some tyres for a Tesla tomorrow. They needed to be ordered in specially and were costing the owner around £280 each. I don't know the model type, but the guy told me you can't just fit any tyre (of the correct size) to a Tesla. Tesla specify a particular one. Its nothing something that has been mentioned before on here when calculating the cost of running a Tesla. I don't know if this is just a Tesla thing.
The tyre business owner said he was fitting some tyres for a Tesla tomorrow. They needed to be ordered in specially and were costing the owner around £280 each. I don't know the model type, but the guy told me you can't just fit any tyre (of the correct size) to a Tesla. Tesla specify a particular one. Its nothing something that has been mentioned before on here when calculating the cost of running a Tesla. I don't know if this is just a Tesla thing.
MolteniArcore
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Just done a quick search for the cheapest Tesla tyres out of interest:
Model 3 - £83.90
Model S - £95.29
Model X - £112.85
There are loads of options so you must be able to plop any old tyre on a Tesla - it's a car after all.
MolteniArcore
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How much is the VED going to be?
MolteniArcore
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You could have just said you don't know!
Did you go Betamax as well?You could have just said you don't know!
Centralscrutinizer
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BetaMax was better than VHS
Andy_W
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Every day you bang that broken drum, it falls apart more and more. I find it funny that you're still even trying to get a tune out of it
I think you're one of those people who when they get proven wrong (many times), they try and twist the narrative to say they were joking all along, to try and save some face. It won't work.
Redwurzel
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It appears the tyre business owner must have given me false information if Telsa tyres can be bought for £112 each etc and they can use the same tyres as ICE vehicles.
I would have thought VED will be the same as ICE vehicle of equivalent type say BMW 3 series for basic Tesla.
I would have thought VED will be the same as ICE vehicle of equivalent type say BMW 3 series for basic Tesla.
Andy_W
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I suppose you don't know what Tesla it was, and the tyre size? My mate just got 4 Pirelli's from Blackcircles for his model 3, and they were only £600 all in.
Pretty much every Tesla is a performance car, and performance car manufacturers always recommend performance tyres, whether that's an ICE or an EV. Of course, there will be cheaper options than £280 a tyre, but again it's the same for ICE and EV.
A £1000 set of tyres will probably last 30,000 miles, so maybe 3-4 years, just like a £500 set of tyres would. The difference over 3 years is £10-14 a month, not really much of a percentage of the total cost, whether the EV/ ICE owner is choosing performance tyres or not, to me expensive tyres seem a bit of a gimmick for "normal" use. You might get more wear out of an EV, due to the additional weight, but I imagine it's no more than 10%, but that's only going to be a £2-3 difference per month.
Andy_W
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When VED goes out for EV in 2025 they're going to be taxed at £10 I think, for the first year, then go to something like £150 per year. I'll eat my hat if they don't jack up the VED cost on a similar-performance ICE car by the same amount.
Of course, fuel duty is going up by £12p per litre, which starts in March next year, so that's going to add on ~£150 a year for most ICE users.
By 2025 the govt won't have to "sell" the idea of the EV, as half the cars sold will be EV's by then, but they will still tax cars at a rate equivalent to their emissions.
Andy_W
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Looks like the company car tax rates are staying low until at least 2025, I would have thought they might have started to creep up even more, but I guess not. EV's definitely still the choice for companies until at least 2028 by the looks of it.
- 2025/2026 = 3% BIK
- 2026/2027 = 4% BIK
- 2027/2028 = 5% BIK
Redwurzel
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Andy - I don't know the Tesla model or the size of the tyres, because its a stranger's vehicle.
I started by asking hime was it worth paying extra for top brand tyres and he brought up about paying a lot for tyres for a Tesla. He told me EVs were heavier cars which put more pressure on the tyres.
My Falken front tyres last about 32k miles - I replaced them last in October 2019 - the rear tyres wear much less I have just replaced a pair that were bought in February 2018 about 46k miles with them. I would recommend them they are made by Sumitomo (400 year old Japanese Company - I was shocked they went back so far).
Ref tax collected from motorists as said before its going to be interesting where the tax will come from when ICE vehicles go. At present they provide tax @ around 60% of the price of unleaded opposed to 5% tax from electicity. Thats about £600 per car per year according to my fag packets estimates that's about £9bn? altghough the RAC have said £13bn. My guess is road pricing for all vehicles is a near certainity.
I started by asking hime was it worth paying extra for top brand tyres and he brought up about paying a lot for tyres for a Tesla. He told me EVs were heavier cars which put more pressure on the tyres.
My Falken front tyres last about 32k miles - I replaced them last in October 2019 - the rear tyres wear much less I have just replaced a pair that were bought in February 2018 about 46k miles with them. I would recommend them they are made by Sumitomo (400 year old Japanese Company - I was shocked they went back so far).
Ref tax collected from motorists as said before its going to be interesting where the tax will come from when ICE vehicles go. At present they provide tax @ around 60% of the price of unleaded opposed to 5% tax from electicity. Thats about £600 per car per year according to my fag packets estimates that's about £9bn? altghough the RAC have said £13bn. My guess is road pricing for all vehicles is a near certainity.