Can the UK rejoin the EU?

MoggasDog said:
I was heart broken by Brexit.
I would love us to rejoin. As it happens, thanks to my wife, I am proud to say that I am an EU citizen anyway.
But it caused such division that it would be horrible to go through it again, not to mention anti-democratic. I wanted a second referendum before brexit was confirmed but through the majority that the tories got in the last GE, it was clear that brexit had to be followed through.
We cant have referendums every 5 minutes until you get the answer that you want. A moronic majority voted for brexit. It may have been far too slim a majority to call such a major issue, but it was a majority, none the less.
No political party would campaign for brexit before an election, at the moment. Maybe in 10 years when a few more of the little englanders have popped their clogs.
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You might ask whether a result engineered through false information constitutes a democratic choice.
 
JackG said:
We shouldn't. We will be supplicants as much as applicants.
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When we left we negotiated a deal which meant we weren't a complete 3rd country and a part, NI, has even better benefits.

It isn't too much of a stretch to see joining the EU being a similar process of negotiation, it may not end up as the Germany+++ deal we had before but no need to talk things down and be so defeatist.
 
newyddion said:
NORWAY+ is the way forward.. re-join the single market and the customs union and have our EU membership through the EFTA
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EFTA is not the EU. We would still need to abide by EU rules without a say in making them. Also, the UK economy is way too big to be compatible with the intention of EFTA membership.
 
ThePrisoner said:
Have to get around joining the Euro somehow.
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I'm fairly sure we could get around it the same way that various other countries have done, and continue to do. In fact, the EU's own criteria for how and when states should adopt the Euro seem to leave the door wide open to delaying it for as long as you like.

As stated on the EU's official website, in relation to the adoption of the Euro:

The Treaty does not specify a particular timetable for joining the euro area but leaves it to Member States to develop their own strategies for meeting the condition for euro adoption. Eight of the thirteen Member States who joined the EU since 2004 have already joined the euro area.
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As that states, there is no required timetable and five of the states that joined in 2004 still haven't adopted it, nearly twenty years later.

The Euro - who can join and when?
 
Joining the single market a customs union would give us all the economic benefits. we'd have to make a hefty financial contribution, and its true we would get a direct say in making of EU rules, but in the mediumm term that Norway / swiss model is the most achievable and propable most desirable.
 
There is absolutely no trust left between the EU and any variation of government the Tories put up. I doubt that they would even enter any discussions with them over any aspects of improving the easing of trade between us and them.
 
MoggasDog said:
I was heart broken by Brexit.
I would love us to rejoin. As it happens, thanks to my wife, I am proud to say that I am an EU citizen anyway.
But it caused such division that it would be horrible to go through it again, not to mention anti-democratic. I wanted a second referendum before brexit was confirmed but through the majority that the tories got in the last GE, it was clear that brexit had to be followed through.
We cant have referendums every 5 minutes until you get the answer that you want. A moronic majority voted for brexit. It may have been far too slim a majority to call such a major issue, but it was a majority, none the less.
No political party would campaign for brexit before an election, at the moment. Maybe in 10 years when a few more of the little englanders have popped their clogs.
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I would fully expect Labour to be discussing customs union towards the end of their first term.

There is a clear majority who, at least, see the error in leaving.

There are steps to achieve that. BTW I agree that it was and still it's a divisive subject amongst family and friends. This is a barrier that had to be overcome. Similarly many people probably want the government to deal with some more pressing issues at home first. The NHS and collapsing schools to name but 2.
 
I voted leave for reasons I’ve previously openly discussed on here and I’m not going to go into it again. I now feel I’ve been let down by those in power rather than necessarily mislead. On reflection, and seeing how incompetent those in power on all sides have been since 2016, I hope we rejoin sooner than later, whether that’s customs union and free movement/right of abode of people, or full rejoin ultimately.
 
JackG said:
We would have to commit to adopting the Euro, thus giving up independent monetary and fiscal policies. That's a much worse deal than the one we threw away.
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I love this euro thing. As I sit here, in an EU country, that doesn't have the euro.
 
Belonging to the Single Market was/is useful for the whole of the UK and would significantly reduce the current non tariff barriers faced by exporters in the Single Market.
 
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Laughing said:
I would fully expect Labour to be discussing customs union towards the end of their first term.

There is a clear majority who, at least, see the error in leaving.

There are steps to achieve that. BTW I agree that it was and still it's a divisive subject amongst family and friends. This is a barrier that had to be overcome. Similarly many people probably want the government to deal with some more pressing issues at home first. The NHS and collapsing schools to name but 2.
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I would think those discussions are, and have being going on between third party, non attributable people.
 
I am over here in ireland & belive ye made the right choice in leaving as the EU is one for all & all for one meaning we can no longer do our own deals with business around the world as it has to get approved by the eu first,.
 
Starmer u-turns

Scrap university tuition fees
Scrap universal credit
End NHS outsourcing
Bring back Sure Start
Tax on Big Tech
Abolishing house of Lords
Change gender recognition act
Compensate Waspi women
Nationalise public utilities

Etc.

Etc.

And yet the only group that doesn't believe they've been played is rejoiners

Starmer has ruled out rejoining the EU the Single Market and Customs union.

We can rejoin just not under the current leaders
 

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