Carrick needs help

[Mayor Goldie Wilson]

I think it is pretty obvious that Carrick could really do with an experienced head alongside him to tell him when it’s not working and needs changing. We are far too predictable 99% of the time and when it’s not going our way we seem incapable of changing it until games are gone.

I heard a comment yesterday at the game that the last few home games are reminiscent of the worst days under Woodgate, and that is so true.

 

[Cardiffdaffs]

I cant agree with this. Carrick has more experience at top level football than Ipswich manager Kieran McKenna who has a relatively inexperienced coaching team alongside him. Its all about the quality of your squad and state of injuries. We have poor ageing loanees but over at Ipswich a Chelsea young loanee had a fabulous game capped by a goal.

We are going back to the days of Robbo and Venables in your thinking. If you believe the manager is not good enough to manage on his own then you believe he isn't ready to manage IMO. He patently is good enough.

 

[viv_andersons_nana]

We only get these threads after defeats.

 

[SCG]

Bring back Leo!

 

[BumTrumpet57]

We only get these threads after defeats.

Thanks Captain Obvious. I’m not sure these threads would be valid if we were playing well, on a winning streak, smashing goals in and pushing for promotion.

Breaking news….we are not!

 

[BoroMad87]

I cant agree with this. Carrick has more experience at top level football than Ipswich manager Kieran McKenna who has a relatively inexperienced coaching team alongside him. Its all about the quality of your squad and state of injuries. We have poor ageing loanees but over at Ipswich a Chelsea young loanee had a fabulous game capped by a goal.

We are going back to the days of Robbo and Venables in your thinking. If you believe the manager is not good enough to manage on his own then you believe he isn't ready to manage IMO. He patently is good enough.

Ipswich also have luongo and morsy who let's be honest no body would put anywhere near a top 6 championship team.

But good tactics and a collective team approach goes a long way, everyone running and working as hard as they can till the final second and quality will shine through sadly I don't see this attitude and determination within our squad!

 

[viv_andersons_nana]

Thanks Captain Obvious. I’m not sure these threads would be valid if we were playing well, on a winning streak, smashing goals in and pushing for promotion.

Breaking news….we are not!

It’s not about that though. Nobody mentioned Woodgate after Leicester last week, or Chelsea, or ANY of the wins we’ve registered. People are just looking for scapegoats in the aftermath of a defeat because lots of posters on here can’t handle not winning football matches.

 

[AytonMews]

Did he need help last season too?

 

[gravy173]

He should help himself and work out the right tactics for the team he’s putting on the pitch, OBrien and barlaser are simply not going to work with those tactics yesterday

 

[BumTrumpet57]

It’s not about that though. Nobody mentioned Woodgate after Leicester last week, or Chelsea, or ANY of the wins we’ve registered. People are just looking for scapegoats in the aftermath of a defeat because lots of posters on here can’t handle not winning football matches.

I agree some people go too far with the searching for scapegoats. However, there needs to be questions asked when a team, manager, players whatever are not learning from mistakes. It’s like Groundhog Day watching the Boro at times, you can almost set your watch to Carricks substitutions regardless of what is happening on the pitch.

 

[Quicksilvera]

Thanks Captain Obvious. I’m not sure these threads would be valid if we were playing well, on a winning streak, smashing goals in and pushing for promotion.

Breaking news….we are not!

There he is again, chill out people are entitled to an opinion.

 

[TeaCider]

We only get these threads after defeats.

Obviously, why would we get threads about things not working after wins?

We've won 1 of the last 8 home league matches and that win was on the 23rd of December.
Of those 7 matches we didn't win, it's only the Sunderland match where we even played well.
We were appalling against Plymouth, awful against Bristol City, Ipswich and Rotherham, we capitulated against Coventry and Hull.
We're 17th in the home form table, it's going very badly, most of the wins propping us up in 17th came over 3 months ago.

A battling defeat against Villa and a lucky win against Chelsea in the League Cup is all people have had to cling to since Christmas.

 

[viv_andersons_nana]

Obviously, why would we get threads about things not working after wins?

We've won 1 of the last 8 home league matches and that win was on the 23rd of December.
Of those 7 matches we didn't win, it's only the Sunderland match where we even played well.
We were appalling against Plymouth, awful against Bristol City, Ipswich and Rotherham, we capitulated against Coventry and Hull.
We're 17th in the home form table, it's going very badly, most of the wins propping us up in 17th came over 3 months ago.

A battling defeat against Villa and a lucky win against Chelsea in the League Cup is all people have had to cling to since Christmas.

If you’re classing wins as lucky then feel free to do the same with unlucky and defeats.

My point was that this thread didn’t appear after the Leicester game. As soon as we lose, people are out for Woodgate because he was a poor manager for us and because of who he is. Those people never cite Woodgate when we win matches. I imagine you knew that’s what I meant though.

 

[TeaCider]

If you’re classing wins as lucky then feel free to do the same with unlucky and defeats.

My point was that this thread didn’t appear after the Leicester game. As soon as we lose, people are out for Woodgate because he was a poor manager for us and because of who he is. Those people never cite Woodgate when we win matches. I imagine you knew that’s what I meant though.

The Chelsea win was lucky, they missed 3 huge chances and 9 times out of 10 would have won.

We've not been unlucky in any defeat except Aston Villa since Boxing Day.

We were very unlucky to lose to Rotherham on Boxing Day, and that's the only league defeat this season where we didn't deserve to lose.

We've had a handful of unlucky draws.

 

[viv_andersons_nana]

The Chelsea win was lucky, they missed 3 huge chances and 9 times out of 10 would have won.

We've not been unlucky in any defeat except Aston Villa since Boxing Day.

We were very unlucky to lose to Rotherham on Boxing Day, and that's the only league defeat this season where we didn't deserve to lose.

We've had a handful of unlucky draws.

There have been countless games we should’ve won. Millwall on the first day set the tone; we were the better side without scoring the goals. Preston away, the two Rotherham matches, Sunderland at home, Hull at home, Plymouth away, Huddersfield at home, we’ve been the better side in all of those games without winning.

We are lacking in both boxes at moment. The lack of quality up front puts pressure on the defence, which in turn has never really been tight under Carrick anyway… meaning one conceded feels worse because we are then more reliant on the quality we don’t have up front… and the cycle repeats itself.

We are a disjointed team. There’s been so much chopping and changing that the team has never really had a chance to develop a set style and the patterns of play we had last season. Another 15 or new players, the attacking end of last season’s team ripped out, and then the absolutely ridiculous number of injuries. It’s been a mess.

I think if you put Akpom of last season and one of Archer or Ramsey and perhaps Giles into this current team we’d have won the vast majority of games I mentioned above. And I guess that’s the point.