Carrick

Carrick

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people have worked us out how we play and hes not capable of getting round that problem,buck stops with him im afraid
Ex Footy Legs said:
Like get rid of woodgate who offers absolutely nothing to the club.
We seen how clueless he was when in charge of the team and what’s he offer now ?
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woodgate doesnt pick the team ,stop tryin g to deflect the blame from carrick onto woodgate!!ffs
 
Ex Footy Legs said:
Like get rid of woodgate who offers absolutely nothing to the club.
We seen how clueless he was when in charge of the team and what’s he offer now ?
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Often thought the same although that might be a bit harsh as we don't know what his role involves. Certainly lots of parallels with the lacklustre performances we had under him with what we're currently seeing though.

There seems to be a bit of apathy creeping in amongst the fans now which is worrying.
 
Carrick one of the best things to happen to the club in the last 10 years and has been a real positive for the club as manager and has been let down by spending and injuries. We have a couple of bad results and fans become so reactionary and short sighted, giving no names of managers who would do a better job.
 
Carrick really needs to learn to adapt and understand that just because he has a way of playing that he wants means it will result in getting wins

Chelsea away was the perfect example of this as was the play offs last year

Sometimes you just have to be pragmatic

I think he will turn out to be a very good Manager but this is a big test he’s facing now and I don’t think he is showing enough to turn it around this season
 
I think he is a very good manager and we are better for having him. Its his first full season and he is learning on the job in quite difficult circumstances. A squad in flux and one decimated by injuries throughout the season. Its a shame we have regressed somewhat this season, though with the profile of player brought in it was probably quite likely. Moving forward the club will have to provide him with players that can do what he wants from them. He will have seen what we are lacking this season so for me the time to judge will be this time next season.
 
starplayer said:
I think he is a very good manager and we are better for having him.
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I’m genuinely not trying to troll or be facetious here when I ask this. Why is he a very good manager? What has he achieved to be labelled ‘very good’?

He has potential, but in my opinion, calling him very good is well off the mark. A very good manager would be capable of recognising when something is not working…..Carrick has displayed to date, he is not capable of adapting.
 
starplayer said:
I think he is a very good manager and we are better for having him. Its his first full season and he is learning on the job in quite difficult circumstances. A squad in flux and one decimated by injuries throughout the season. Its a shame we have regressed somewhat this season, though with the profile of player brought in it was probably quite likely. Moving forward the club will have to provide him with players that can do what he wants from them. He will have seen what we are lacking this season so for me the time to judge will be this time next season.
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One could argue that he was very lucky with the squad he inherited, chuba and January transfer window, to which the players and coaching staff blew it when we should of been promoted last season

Now when people know how we set up and with the players with have, which bye the way he will of had an input on, he is coming unstuck and struggling to either think of a plan B or to stubborn to make a change?
 
BumTrumpet57 said:
I’m genuinely not trying to troll or be facetious here when I ask this. Why is he a very good manager? What has he achieved to be labelled ‘very good’?

He has potential, but in my opinion, calling him very good is well off the mark. A very good manager would be capable of recognising when something is not working…..Carrick has displayed to date, he is not capable of adapting.
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I agree with this. He came with a system that worked well for us last season with some quality players. He looked good, the players looked good, everyone was happy.

He's been given some average players this season and the system hasn't really worked for us. He's failed to change it and made some baffling team selections at times. Does a really good manager only have one way of playing or are they more adaptable ?

I want to stick by Carrick. But he can't fall into this trap of trying to make the wrong players fit the system. Wilderesque
 
BoroMad87 said:
I disagree, he has to take blame in the same way as barlaser, obrien, engel etc get slated, he sends the team out with a game plan which clearly isn't working, injuries are part of the game, which all managers have to deal with.

Our inability to defend properly or defend set pieces or even attempt to score a set piece is on the manager and his coaching staff!
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He has to take his portion of the blame yes, but it’s also true that his job has been made massively more difficult with injuries and gaps in the transfer policy
 
BoroMad87 said:
One could argue that he was very lucky with the squad he inherited, chuba and January transfer window, to which the players and coaching staff blew it when we should of been promoted last season

Now when people know how we set up and with the players with have, which bye the way he will of had an input on, he is coming unstuck and struggling to either think of a plan B or to stubborn to make a change?
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Yeah, can’t argue with that but for me there are valid reasons this season why we have been so inconsistent and results have been poor. Ripping it up and starting again just seems too much of a backwards step at the minute. Others will have a different view.
 
I’m a big fan of Carrick but my concern just now is that all managers have momentum where the team improves, peaks and then goes into decline.

The top managers know how to stop and reverse the decline and go again.

Carrick’s Boro peaked by getting into the play offs last season and have been stuttering this season with today in my opinion being the first sign of ‘exhaustion’ in terms of team selection, formation and tactics, and we again conceded two early and poor goals against a very ordinary opposition.

I hope he can turn it around and get some fresh energy into the team and the way it plays but it didn’t look good today, in fact in my opinion it was very concerning all round even allowing for the injury problem.
 
I love Carrick and what he’s done for us so far. He needs to start picking his best players. Couldn’t believe today that he took 2 x playmakers off when we are desperate for goals. McGree is our best player. Like the rest he was poor today but should have been kept on the pitch.

How he still persists with Glover ahead of Dieng is beyond me. Although Glover did keep us in it at 2-0. The rot started with the opening goal. Poor keeping (AGAIN!)

He’s been held back by a lack of recruitment in key areas. Injuries haven’t helped as some of those have been to key players and sucked pace / creativity out of our team.

If you recruit and build a squad around a certain style of play, it’s very difficult to then say we need to change tact. We need the right players to play in the right system. Some clearly aren’t good enough though. Very little he can do about that. He knows his remit.

People read too much into his interviews. He’s protecting the players and not blaming injuries / recruitment for the current circumstances. Unlike some previous managers we’ve had.

This season is over. Has been for a good while. Not mathematically but today is a prime example of why people have written it off. Plymouth played like they were fighting for something. We looked like we couldn’t be bothered.

This summer is massive. We must get rid of the deadwood and recruit quality!
 
Its not really doing a Sunderland is it? I'm not saying Carrick should be sacked, as I don't think he should, but the discussion is relevant. We are in danger of having our worst league finish since 1990. Woodgate currently has that honour with 17th place in the second tier.

We have gone from one of our best seasons in 10 years to one of our worst in 25 years within 12 months. It needs serious consideration at what is going wrong. I personally think we've got it massively wrong in the transfer market last season but lots on here will defend the transfer policy. If we have another regression like this next season we could be in a relegation scrap. Something has to change. We can't just do the same thing again this summer and think everything will be OK.
 
B_G said:
Its not really doing a Sunderland is it?
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Somethings not right.....that isn`t Carrick

Something wasn`t right at Sunderland.......that wasn`t Mowbray

If we get rid of Carrick......imo we`ll have done a Sunderland.

I agree with everything else you said in the 2nd paragraph
 
The gutting of the squad last summer has been compounded by this season's injury crisis. Carrick does need to adapt, but he kept faith early doors and results did improve so I don't think his way of playing is wrong. The big problem seems to be that it needs better players than we have for it to be consistently effective and when it's not working we need players who can dig in. Our squad was lacking in both respects at the start of the season and has been made worse following the January window.
It'll make him a better manager if he can find a way to get more out of a budget squad and I fear he's going to need to do just that.
 
dooderooni said:
The big problem seems to be that it needs better players than we have for it to be consistently effective
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This is the key.

But that's a failing of a) the recruitment team team, for not getting him those players but also B) Carrick, for not changing it when it's blatantly obvious the players he's got aren't good enough to play that way
 
B_G said:
This is the key.

But that's a failing of a) the recruitment team team, for not getting him those players but also B) Carrick, for not changing it when it's blatantly obvious the players he's got aren't good enough to play that way
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I'm not sure how we can make it much different at home though. We don't currently have the pace to stretch the game by playing it into the channels and we can't lump it to a focal point and get up in support.
I think we need to just try and up the pace of everything we do and try and exploit the space that will be created. We are so slow and compact right now that once we lose the ball then the opposition are in on goal.
Results might not be much different, but at least we wouldn't be so easy to exploit.
I'd love to know how long it took for Plymouth to shoot from them getting the ball off us. It'll have been a handful of seconds every time.
 
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