Chaos at Derby over Alonso takeover + points penalty(?) + Boro blamed + Keogh pay-out + [Notts Post]

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Apologies if any of this was posted yesterday - but its always nice reading Forests honest unbiased opinion of the balls - up that is Derby County ;@)).

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Nottingham Forest's Championship rivals only stayed up thanks to a final day draw with Sheffield Wednesday
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A dramatic season for Derby County has not finished with the final whistle of the final game.

Nottingham Forest's rivals down the A52 booked their place in the Championship for next season with a roller - coaster 3-3 draw with Sheffield Wednesday on Saturday.

But this afternoon the EFL has confirmed it has won an appeal to the Independent League Arbitration Panel in respect of misconduct charges against the club.

A statement said the league had 'demonstrated that Derby's policy regarding the amortisation of player registrations was contrary to standard accounting rules'. The accounts which have been scrutinised are from 2016 to 2018.

Derby will not be able to appeal against this finding - but they will be able to appeal against any forthcoming penalty or sanction. That could include starting next season with a points deduction.

The EFL added that there is 'no definitive timescale for a determination on sanction'.

Derby have blamed the EFL and Middlesbrough - who they claim raised 'three separate preliminary issues' - for the case taking so long to come to this point.

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A club statement said: "Had Middlesbrough and the EFL not brought those preliminary issues the appeal could have been determined in 2020.

"The club accepts but is disappointed with the League Arbitration Panel’s conclusion on the one ground that the EFL succeeded on. The club and the EFL have agreed that the matter shall now be remitted back to the original Disciplinary Commission, who can determine what, if any, consequences arise from the partial success of the EFL’s amortisation charge, and the club is therefore currently unable to comment further."

Also this afternoon, the club's prospective takeover by Erik Alonso rumbles on with little sign of resolution.

The account belonging to Alonso on social media platform Twitter appears to have vanished.

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[https://www.telegraph.co.uk/footbal...d-derby-county-owner-deletes-twitter-account/ -

Erik Alonso: Proposed Derby County owner deletes Twitter account after being accused of ripping off video ]​


Alonso agreed to take over from current Derby owner Mel in April, announcing that a deal had been struck between the two parties.

The deal is awaiting approval from the English Football League (EFL).

The account now no longer loads when trying to navigate there.

A search for @Eralwbd returns a 'This account doesn’t exist. Try searching for another' message.

Finally, it has been reported that ex-Derby captain Richard Keogh has been 'awarded £2.3m' in a compensation claim against the Rams.

The 34-year-old had his contract terminated with immediate effect in October 2019 on grounds of gross misconduct after he suffered a serious knee injury in a car crash that led to Derby team-mates Tom Lawrence and Mason Bennett being convicted of drink-driving.

Keogh, who played 356 times for Derby, was a passenger in the back seat of one of the vehicles.

He lost an initial appeal against his sacking and took the matter to the EFL's Player Related Dispute Commission (PRDC) where he won a pay out only for Derby to contest the decision with the League Appeals' Committee (LAC).

Derby County declined to comment to DerbyshireLive.

The injury kept Keogh out of action for 12 months but he returned to play for MK Dons and joined Hudderfield Town in January on a deal until the end of this season.

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Richard Keogh awarded £2.3m in breach of contract case against Derby

  • Keogh sacked in 2019 after being injured in car crash
  • Contract was worth a basic £24,000 a week plus bonuses
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Richard Keogh, pictured playing for Huddersfield Town in February. Photograph: Robbie Jay Barratt - AMA/Getty Images


@DaveHytner
Tue 11 May 2021 14.02 BST
Last modified on Tue 11 May 2021 17.46 BST

Richard Keogh has secured a payout of about £2.3m from Derby after winning his long-running compensation claim against the club. The 34-year-old defender, who finished the season at Huddersfield, brought an action for breach of contract in the wake of his sacking by Derby in October 2019.

Keogh had sustained serious knee ligament injuries when he was in the car that his then teammate Tom Lawrence crashed into a lamppost after a night out in September of that year. He was dismissed by Derby for gross misconduct. His contract with them, worth a basic £24,000 a week plus bonuses, was due to run until June 2021.

Keogh went to the EFL’s Player Related Dispute Commission, where he won a full payout only for Derby to contest the decision at the League Appeals’ Committee. The process has been marked by delays, caused in part by the pandemic, but the LAC last week upheld the original verdict.

An EFL statement read: “The LAC has heard and dismissed an appeal under the regulations of the EFL by Derby against the decision of the PRDC in the case of Richard Keogh. The PDRC held that Mr Keogh had not committed gross misconduct, that he had not brought the club into serious disrepute and that he had been wrongly dismissed by the club.”

The car crash happened after a team-bonding day. Lawrence was over the drink-drive limit and so was Mason Bennett, now of Millwall, who had driven off ahead. When Bennett stopped his car at a give-way line, Lawrence went into the back of him before careering into the lamppost. They fled the scene, leaving Keogh unconscious.

Lawrence and Bennett admitted drink-driving and failing to stop at the scene of an accident when they appeared at Derby magistrates court. They avoided jail sentences but each was ordered to carry out 180 hours of unpaid community service and banned from driving for two years. Despite their criminal convictions, Derby chose not to sack them, although they did fine them. Both were unhurt in the incident.

Keogh, who would be out of action for 12 months, had been told by Derby that he could stay and see out his contract but they stunned him by saying he had to accept a massive pay cut to do so. When he refused, Derby dismissed him with immediate effect. Keogh had to make an initial appeal against the decision to Derby, which was thrown out, before he entered into the EFL’s legal framework.

Keogh played at Derby for seven seasons, starting 316 of 330 Championship matches plus all 10 of the club’s play-off ties. He joined MK Dons in League One last August, making his debut in September, before moving to Huddersfield in January on a deal until the end of the season.

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The Derby owner, Mel Morris, is trying to sell the club to No Limits Sports, which is fronted by the Spanish businessman Erik Alonso. Under the management of Wayne Rooney the team avoided relegation on the final day of the Championship season on Saturday when they drew 3-3 at home against Sheffield Wednesday and had another result – Rotherham’s 1-1 draw at Cardiff – go in their favour.

Derby, meanwhile, are to face sanctions from the EFL after the league won an appeal against a previously dismissed misconduct charge. It is not clear whether any punishment would be applied to this season or next, with the EFL saying there was “no definitive timescale” for proceedings.

An independent league arbitration panel concluded a disciplinary commission was wrong to dismiss the EFL’s expert accountancy evidence which stated Derby’s valuation of player registrations was contrary to standard accounting rules. The original disciplinary commission had concluded the club did not adequately disclose in its financial statements the nature and/or effect of its change in accounting policy and there has been no appeal against that decision. Derby and the EFL will have the opportunity to make submissions on the appropriate sanction arising out of those breaches.
 
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Derby's conduct over Richard Keogh was almost as disgusting as that of the two drunk drivers, Tom Lawrence and Mason Bennett.

Prior to Mel Morris, Middlesbrough and Derby had a fairly close relationship, swapping notes on commercial strategy.
You have to wonder what the future now holds for both Derby and Sheff Wed. FFP rules are there to protect players, fans and football clubs. These two clubs have now almost sold off all their assets to owners wanting to sell up. That short term cheating has led to long term pain. It has resulted in relegation for The Owls and could yet do the same for The Rams next season. Exactly why we need FFP and independent regulation with teeth as well Fit and Proper Owners Tests.
 
All that cash spent and where has it got them?
I mean I know we've been profligate with a few terrible transfer splurges but at least we had a bit of PL cash to dip into.
Feels like Gibson was exasperated in the Summer of 2018 when even a limited player like Waghorn went for £5m and a huge salary.
I imagine being outbid time and time again must have been frustrating. Only the player & agent winning.
Must have been so annoying for him when we had 'played by the rules' and had to sell off a number of our best players.

Be interesting to see what happens the next time we play Derby :)

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I genuinely read this bit and was slightly taken aback that it said ‘in the back seat’ rather than ‘in defence for County....’

Keogh, who played 356 times for Derby, was a passenger in the back seat of one of the vehicles.
 
I find the whole Keogh thing absolutely quality. I love how he's seeing them off..... Only because its Derby.

If a Boro player did this to us I'd be raging.

The most shocking part is that he's getting 2.4mil. I mean he's fecking awful and just shows what crazy contracts are flying around in the champo.
 
I find the whole Keogh thing absolutely quality. I love how he's seeing them off..... Only because its Derby.

If a Boro player did this to us I'd be raging.

The most shocking part is that he's getting 2.4mil. I mean he's fecking awful and just shows what crazy contracts are flying around in the champo.

Why would you be raging?

I'd be ashamed if Middlesbrough had sacked a player for getting injured as a passenger whilst continuing to play the two actual drink drivers who left him unconscious at the scene.

Keogh was fully entitled to take them to court, and I'm glad he won the case.

It's very fitting that he's actually finished higher up the table with Huddersfield, and that Derby might yet get relegated.
 
Totally agree @TeaCider I'm just astonished that Morris thought he could get away with it, it's about as open and shut a case as you could have for discrimination against an employer.

I would be furious too if we didn't sack or sell the three of them in that scenario.
 
With those stupid salaries you can see why Gibbo got his knickers in a twist.
Especially when you were already committed to paying a laughing failure £40k weekly
 
2018-2019 - Derby finish 1 point above boro to claim the last play off place. Robbing Boro of extra income and potential promotion.
2019-2020 - Wigan subject to a 12-point deduction after their owners placed the club into administration (1 July 2020) and betting on their relegation.
2020-2021 - Sheffield Wednesday received a 12 point deduction for breaching the League's Profitability and Sustainability Rules. This was later reduced to 6 points by an Independent League Arbitration panel.. meaning Derby County escape relegation based on points accrued during the season.

How and why have Derby escaped points deductions for so long? How many more clubs have to suffer to benefit a club that should not be in the championship based on their performances over the season?

We aren't going to get our loss of income back or shot at promotion from 2018-2019, Wigan had the book thrown at them as a result of the EFL failing to ensure their owners we're fit and proper and Sheff Wed took the hit just like Derby should have.

The only saving grace to this absolute mess would be to apply the points deduction this season and have Wycombe be the benefactors of such awful decision making or lack thereof.
 
Derby are cheeky blaming the Boro - the biggest issue was their Chairman buying the stadium and giving the football club the proceeds and saying it was income which allowed them significant more funds to buy and pay players.
 
Derby are cheeky blaming the Boro - the biggest issue was their Chairman buying the stadium and giving the football club the proceeds and saying it was income which allowed them significant more funds to buy and pay players.
and saying all their players increased in value to make themselves appear more valuable.

imagine us saying Assombalonga was worth £30m in his final season to get around FFP
 
They really are the gift that keeps on giving.

It's owners like this that are great examples of a more robust fit and proper persons test when it comes to takeovers.
 
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