No arguments from me that the system isn't perfect. The current system is just a step. It will improve. There is semi-automation available already which will be used next year and in the not too distant future it will be fully automated which will drastically reduce the response time.
There's pretty much no such thing as level. There is onside or offside and a margin on each side. If you move the margin 300mm then you'll be arguing that 301mm is only 1mm offside so what is the difference between being 1mm offside with no margin and 301mm offside with a 300mm margin? Both are offside by 1mm. That solves nothing except for allowing goals that you know are offside. Either way there is a margin for error already built into the system because of they way they select which frame to use and they already give onside when the lines overlap so you already have what you think you want.
Do you agree with the referee consulting a linesman about a potential penalty or red card or is that delay a problem and you would like the referee to make a snap-decision with less information? What about an off the ball incident that the referee didn't see?
Those were issues where the VAR team got something wrong which is not the situation I was describing. I was meaning a linesman flagging incorrectly and the game stopping before a goal has a chance to be scored.
Don't agree. A player 301mm in front of the defender will be visibly offside. Maybe 300mm is the wrong distance. Maybe 500mm is the right distance. I don't know. But there should be a visible advantage otherwise it's "level".
It’s been consistently hated by fans and it’s not just the odd few. There is a catalogue of terrible VAR decisions. Yes it’s the interpretation not the system but even so it’s horrendous, spoiling football enjoyment in my opinion and glad we don’t have it.
To be pedantic that’s goal line technology not VAR.
This is sport. You can never eliminate the inconsistency in decisions. Even with VAR take the handball given yesterday against Wan Bissaka v the one involving Grealish the day before which wasn’t given. It happens all the time. Yes I am calling for a degree of personal interpretation to come into this and what injustices this may bring it would be better for the paying public.
Your bullschit
Didn’t Ellary give offside in that incident rather than say the ball didn’t cross the line? But you are right, absence of VAR saved us then and saved us from a Bolton penalty at the end of the League Cup final.
No, but you can reduce it
I hate it when it gets rewound by VAR. What you just watched did not happen. So yes absolutely. I need what I am watching to not be reset and taken away. The only acceptable use of VAR was removing the Chelsea goal from the cup final, because that was hilarious.
they weren't, but what you are saying is that you believe that there is a "zone of unknowing" where attackers should be given the benefit of doubt, or "an advantage". But where does that zone begin and end... and how will the public agree on that, and definitely not argue about it? Lets say the agreement is, that if you are within 6 inches of the last defender then let it go, then people will argue is it 5 inches or 7 inches. Big club, they're allowed an extra inch or two of leeway, nothing isd solved and we are back to this whole thread again.
Question again dodged. It has everything to do with our argument. You feel it is important that as many decisions are correct as possible. Therefore you should surely feel huge regret that the only trophy we won I'm the entirety of our history was won by a refereeing error. Do you?
Oh for **** sake.
I didn't dodge it - I stated I have no idea how that match would have gone, and neither do you.
This isn't true though. If Zenden's penalty had been disallowed because he touched it twice we might have still won the trophy. If Ehiogu's "handball" had been given as a penalty it might have been saved. However, if Festa's goal in the FA Cup final had stood we might have won a trophy many years earlier. I assume there were incorrect decisions in the run up to those and other finals, like against Chesterfield and all other competitions and there were things like Viduka not getting the penalty in the Sevilla game at 1-0 which could have changed things. There will have been other games where we were on the receiving end of bad decisions like Ronaldo's dive which might have meant we progressed further that year. They all happened under the system we had at the time and whether we liked it or not it was the way it was. That's not the case now. We don't have to wonder how things would have gone if the correct decisions were made instead because we have a system to correct it. It's not a perfect system but there are now fewer games decided by poor decisions than there used to be.
