De Niro on trump -

"You just voted for a man who: 1. Relentlessly attacks our institutions and has promised he will be a dictator on 'day one,' determined to destroy our democracy for the sole purpose of enriching himself and staying out of prison,"

"2. Has been found liable for rape, and is accused of many other acts of sexual misconduct and assault.

"3. Uses increasingly violent rhetoric to divide us and endanger anybody who doesn't support him."

Who said this then ????

Mary trump his niece and a clinical psychologist.
 
Jedi boro said:
"You just voted for a man who: 1. Relentlessly attacks our institutions and has promised he will be a dictator on 'day one,' determined to destroy our democracy for the sole purpose of enriching himself and staying out of prison,"

"2. Has been found liable for rape, and is accused of many other acts of sexual misconduct and assault.

"3. Uses increasingly violent rhetoric to divide us and endanger anybody who doesn't support him."

Who said this then ????

Mary trump his niece and a clinical psychologist.
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I didn't vote for him as I'm not an american.

I'm not really bothered what some obscure relative with a grudge thinks of Trump but regards the second point.

He has not been convicted of rape, the police refused to charge him because there was insufficient evidence. It went to a civil case where the burden of proof is lower and the jury can find in favour on the basis of probability. There was no physical proof of what happened or witnesses who could place the two of them in the same vicinity at the same time, nor could his accuser give a firm date of when it happened, despite this the jury found in her favour. The court was in a highly partisan democrat district where the statute of limitations was changed for a 1 year period specifically to bring the case against Trump. A lot of americans believe it is a political hit job, hence it has not affected his high poll ratings.
 
Bruciebonus said:
I said if it's your only response.

There is a bit more to Trump than calling people. He forwards political positions and arguments that a lot of voters agree on, that's why he has huge support. Also he has a track record from being in office, strong economy (pre-covid), low inflation, high employment, better energy independence, lower taxes, secure borders, etc. Also for someone you consider 'evil' he did not start any new foreign conflicts. Something his Nobel prize winning predecessor did on numerous occasions.

When he labels an opponent, the name sticks because it's true and usually funny i.e. Sleepy Joe, who has been filmed literally falling asleep in public on numerous occasions.
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**** me.
 
Bruciebonus said:
I'm doing fine in life thanks (y)

If you can't see how unfit Joe Biden is for the job then you are the ignorant one.

Also, if your only response is name calling and labelling then you don't have much of an argument.
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Is Trump fit for the job? in terms of mental faculties, attitude, honesty, integrity, corruption, and not being a dangerous narcissistic sociopath?
 
Jedi boro said:
That’s an ironic joke right ?

Given the topic and who you are siding with
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Excellent point, debate winning point.

If someone believes in debating the topic instead of juvenile name calling, then it’s impossible to square that belief with anything but contempt for Trump
 
Bruciebonus said:
I said if it's your only response.

There is a bit more to Trump than calling people. He forwards political positions and arguments that a lot of voters agree on, that's why he has huge support. Also he has a track record from being in office, strong economy (pre-covid), low inflation, high employment, better energy independence, lower taxes, secure borders, etc. Also for someone you consider 'evil' he did not start any new foreign conflicts. Something his Nobel prize winning predecessor did on numerous occasions.

When he labels an opponent, the name sticks because it's true and usually funny i.e. Sleepy Joe, who has been filmed literally falling asleep in public on numerous occasions.
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That’s an absolute word salad of conspiracy and cultist nonsense
 
Bruciebonus said:
has not been convicted of rape, the police refused to charge him because there was insufficient evidence. It went to a civil case where the burden of proof is lower and the jury can find in favour on the basis of probability
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Well done you’ve just agreed on the balance of probability he’s a rapist. Imagine thinking that’s a virtue you sick f@&k
 
BoroMart said:
Well done you’ve just agreed on the balance of probability he’s a rapist. Imagine thinking that’s a virtue you sick f@&k
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Oh dear, this topic seems to attract the unhinged.

Not quite sure I follow your logic there. Where have I agreed that he is a rapist and I think it's a virtue?

I pointed out the difference between a criminal and civil trail. The fact that the latter does not require proof beyond reasonable doubt, means they have not proved anything. As I pointed out a lot of americans see the trial as a political hit job, hence why his poll ratings are unaffected by the verdict.

It seems on here, when it comes to Trump people seem unable to debate on facts but instead descend quickly into personal abuse.
 
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