Derby fans singing about Having a party when Steve Gibson dies

equaliser said:
A questionable legal action by the he chairman of a rival club which threatens to destroy the institution that more than any other gives you meaning and identity is analogous to the exterior destruction of culture and community under Thatcher. It's felt the same way; it's an attack.

Financial fair play is a nonsense. How are Man City or PSG playing fair financially? How are Newcastle? It sits ill that we are whining about something like this. We weren't good enough on the pitch. That's all that really counts and every football fan knows it. Gibson should cease and desist. He is like the Tories he now cleaves to: gaming the system when it suits him, trying to change the rules when it doesn't.
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Hello Mel.
 
equaliser said:
A questionable legal action by the he chairman of a rival club which threatens to destroy the institution that more than any other gives you meaning and identity is analogous to the exterior destruction of culture and community under Thatcher. It's felt the same way; it's an attack.

Financial fair play is a nonsense. How are Man City or PSG playing fair financially? How are Newcastle? It sits ill that we are whining about something like this. We weren't good enough on the pitch. That's all that really counts and every football fan knows it. Gibson should cease and desist. He is like the Tories he now cleaves to: gaming the system when it suits him, trying to change the rules when it doesn't.
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You've swallowed the Morris and Quantuma line hook line and sinker if you think our claim 'threatens to destroy' Derby at all.

Doctor Eggman is holding them to ransom for their own stadium, and won't even pay the tax bill. He and the admins have made mountains in the media of ours and Wycombe's claims to disguise their filthy handling of DCFC and their fans.
 
GazC_MFC said:
Are you saying it’s okay to celebrate the death of Margaret thatcher?
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answering a question with a question isn't really honest debate. Especially since I've asked it twice. It would seem you have no intention of answering it, because to do so sees your prejudices laid bare
 
BoroMart said:
answering a question with a question isn't really honest debate. Especially since I've asked it twice. It would seem you have no intention of answering it, because to do so sees your prejudices laid bare
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You seemed to be justifying celebrating death, the names you mentioned I wouldn’t celebrate them. I might celebrate the outcome they give, but not the death of anyone, I don’t find death of anyone a moment of celebration.

now your turn
 
GazC_MFC said:
You seemed to be justifying celebrating death, the names you mentioned I wouldn’t celebrate them. I might celebrate the outcome they give, but not the death of anyone, I don’t find death of anyone a moment of celebration.
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That's you putting my words in my mouth. So fine, you don't think the death of a murderer or a dictator or a child molestor is ever justified. Fine, that's your choice.

I didn't justify the celebration, I simply said that comparing Boro fans being happy a dangerous old bint like Thatcher, who protected her dictator friend the murderous Pinochete, and ruined many many peoples lives for decades, some suffering severe mental health issues because of her, was not the same ballpark as a football chairman refusing to drop his arbitration claim for compensation when wronged by a cheating chairman. It's an apple and oranges comparison by you and not exactly surprising.
 
BoroMart said:
I think creating further jeopardy for cheats IS worth it, if Morris know he would be financially liable for breaking ffp, then he would have probably not done it and Derby wouldn't be in this mess. Doing this IS worth it in scaring other chairman from acting in this way


That's an opinion, but without having access to the details of an arbitration process you simply don't know and of course it isn't just Gibson, it's Couhig too


They have, however they are looking for a way of writing off debt AND keeping their playing assets. That can't be justice. But, Gibson isn't doing this to punish, he wants compensation. How much of his own personal money has Gibson put into this club? How do you thin he feels sticking to the rules, and seeing other teams make his investment worthless because they don't follow the rules?


It's unlikely, but not impossible. I think had Derby not cheated, we would have a 95%+ chance of reaching the play-offs, a 50% chance of beating a Leeds side that we had drawn twice with, and probably a 10% chance of beating Villa on the day to reach the prem. You can argue a % here or there. But you can't realistically state that we wouldn't (100%) have reached the final or gained promtion.


Not really relevant to the point at hand


That's an opinion, but the fact that Gibson drew attention to this before that season ended makes it seem a poor conclusion


They haven't paid their debts, they absolutely should not move forward.
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The trouble with comparing our league results that season against the other teams in the play off's is that doesnt take into account the players we lost out on when derby hijacked those deals because they had more money than they otherwise would have. We would have had a stronger team/squad as we directly lost out on signing players due to derby cheating.
 
BoroMart said:
That's you putting my words in my mouth. So fine, you don't think the death of a murderer or a dictator or a child molestor is ever justified. Fine, that's your choice.

I didn't justify the celebration, I simply said that comparing Boro fans being happy a dangerous old bint like Thatcher, who protected her dictator friend the murderous Pinochete, and ruined many many peoples lives for decades, some suffering severe mental health issues because of her, was not the same ballpark as a football chairman refusing to drop his arbitration claim for compensation when wronged by a cheating chairman. It's an apple and oranges comparison by you and not exactly surprising.
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It’s pretty idiotic, you complain about me putting words in your mouth and retort to the same

I didn’t say peoples death weren’t justified, I said I don’t celebrate it

all I’m saying is people getting offended by a derby song are the same people celebrating thatchers death. Personally both are wrong, but I believe certain people are smell of hypocrisy.
 
Who gives a **** about Thatcher either way?
It's a completely irrelevant deflection.

I certainly didn't celebrate or take any pleasure in her dying, and I've taken offence at Derby fans singing about celebrating if Gibson dies.
It's pathetic.
 
GazC_MFC said:
It’s pretty idiotic, you complain about me putting words in your mouth and retort to the same
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That's exactly why I did it, goose and gander fella, don't whine about someone giving you it straight back

GazC_MFC said:
all I’m saying is people getting offended by a derby song are the same people celebrating thatchers death.
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except that is a total fabrication, you have invented that as you simply don't know that correlation exists.
 
TeaCider said:
Who gives a **** about Thatcher either way?
It's a completely irrelevant deflection.
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exactly this. Neither did I, I didn't shed a tear either or feel sympathy, but that isn't the same as celebrating.

Why would someone do that about such vile behaviour towards a man that saved our club, put millions of his own money into our club to totally transform it, and has given 35 years worth of service towards our town and region. I mean question some of his decisions, fine, he isn't perfect......but to use whataboutery, fake cries of hypocricy, and to say you're cool about the vile behaviour he has faced for 3 years from Derby fans as they look for a scapegoat for their own idiotic backing of Mel Morris, an absolute fraud of a man.....great way to out yourself as the most ungrateful and pathetic Boro fan of all time fella.
 
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