Djed Spence

12.5 mil and various add ons is a great price. He cost us nothing and doesn't want to play for us.

We have at least done something we didn't in the past and secured up to 7.5mil in add ons. Also spurs are not big enough to hold onto him if he has a worldie and plays for England etc.

The likes of City etc will buy him if he's decent. So you'd imagine 10-20% of any future profit? That's easy on 12.5mil. One good season and he's worth 50mil+.

Warnock would have sold him for 3-4mil and we'd have said 'that's a decent fee'.

It's a great price for a player who doesn't want to play for us. I'm not sure why people think we've been seen off? We have the security of if he becomes good then we will again cash in👌
 
I'd be more than happy with 12.5m, I'll even drive him there myself.

I'll take that extra 7.5m with a pinch of salt though, as I don't expect us to see most or any of it to be honest, as usual clauses for that are targets which he may not meet.

Spurs probably won't win a cup, but I bet that only makes up the last couple of million. They ain't getting passed City or Liverpool and will no doubt bottle it before they play them anyway.
He might get found out and not have many appearances, so call that £2m we may not get
I doubt he'll get an England cap as England have about 12 good RB/RWB's, so call that £2m we probably won't get
They might have a top 4 clause which we may get but I think that will be harder as can see Arsenal and Man U doing better the next few years.

I just hope to god we have a clause in there where if they sell him, we get a sale fee of a few million, so they can't just sell him and get away from those bonuses.

I wouldn't be pressing for a sell on % as they won't accept a meaningful one of 10% or more, and 10% of him being sold back to the champo for £5m won't give us much either.
 
Andy_W said:
I'd be more than happy with 12.5m, I'll even drive him there myself.

I'll take that extra 7.5m with a pinch of salt though, as I don't expect us to see most or any of it to be honest, as usual clauses for that are targets which he may not meet.

Spurs probably won't win a cup, but I bet that only makes up the last couple of million. They ain't getting passed City or Liverpool and will no doubt bottle it before they play them anyway.
He might get found out and not have many appearances, so call that £2m we may not get
I doubt he'll get an England cap as England have about 12 good RB/RWB's, so call that £2m we probably won't get
They might have a top 4 clause which we may get but I think that will be harder as can see Arsenal and Man U doing better the next few years.

I just hope to god we have a clause in there where if they sell him, we get a sale fee of a few million, so they can't just sell him and get away from those bonuses.

I wouldn't be pressing for a sell on % as they won't accept a meaningful one of 10% or more, and 10% of him being sold back to the champo for £5m won't give us much either.
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% of profit is feasible if not % of sale.
 
Nano said:
% of profit is feasible if not % of sale.
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Nah, I wouldn't want that, at the expense of the flat sale fee, as I think there's a good chance they sell at a loss, or not for much profit at all.

We need to lock something in, if it doesn't pan out, and they have to let him go on the cheap, or if he runs his contract down and goes for nothing.

I suppose it's down to how we rate him and Spurs, if we think he's going to be class and Spurs are going to clean up, then a deal with loads of bonuses make sense. Where as if we think he's average/ not going to cut it and Spurs are going to keep being spurs then forget the addons. I think the latter is more likely, but I'm more than happy with 12.5m, so to have them bonuses is a bonus to me. It's more of a bonus that he goes now so we can spend the cash too.

12.5m up front is good too, better than 2.5m a year for 5 years.

Anyone who was hoping for 15-20m shouldn't be happy at all though, especially if they were hoping for that up front, and with additional clauses/ fees.
 
Ash88 said:
I said this weeks ago on another Spence thread on here. We wanted 15, Spurs wanted 10.... We should have sold him for 12.5 at the beginning of these negotiations.

We've gained nothing but lost 2-3 weeks.
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And Levy would have just said "sounds great Gibbo, cheers"? If only we'd thought of that!

The last 2-3 weeks might have gained us quite a few extra million which is certainly not to be sniffed at.
 
S7DiscoDown said:
12.5 mil and various add ons is a great price. He cost us nothing and doesn't want to play for us.

We have at least done something we didn't in the past and secured up to 7.5mil in add ons. Also spurs are not big enough to hold onto him if he has a worldie and plays for England etc.

The likes of City etc will buy him if he's decent. So you'd imagine 10-20% of any future profit? That's easy on 12.5mil. One good season and he's worth 50mil+.
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How is he going to get in for England ahead of Trent and all the other right back and RWB's who play week in week out for their clubs (there's loads)? He's got to get a game ahead of Emerson Royal and Doherty first, they only bought Royal last year for 26m.

City have Walker and Cancelo, two of the only players who can play right right back to go for over 50m I think, and the latter was part of a swap, both are way beyond where anyone could even dream of Spence getting to. Obviously walker will be off soon, but Cancelo won't. Cancelo also plays left back when Walker plays, but Right back when he doesn't.

I think best case is them later selling him for 20-25, but even that's a push. But that would only be 10m profit, so 10% of that is only £1m.
 
Caesium137 said:
Same. Funnily enough I was just saying at work the other day I'm desperate for Chelsea to sign Kalidou Koulibaly, as they seem to have been linked with him in the BBC gossip almost every day, for every transfer window, for about 8 years. I'm bloody sick of seeing his name.

See also Mbappe to Real Madrid.
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He’s one of the most over rated defenders I’ve ever seen. Don’t get me wrong he’s good but not good enough for elite clubs or one would of bought him by now,

Turns slower than Harry Maguire these days.
 
£12.5m seems cheap to me, I can understand why we haven't sold.

The key is the add ons and how likely they are to be met.

My fair price was £15m to £20m.

Making comparison's with Spence in August 2021 is not particularly relevant as he has moved on quite a lot.
 
supermfc said:
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could be referring to the add-ons or a bigger initial payment!!
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He’s clearly referring to the 12.5, and Romano is usually pretty good. wasn’t it said the back of last week they’d gone up to 13 from 11. Must be somewhere around 13.5/14 you would think.

Will be spurs leaking lower figures so fans don’t moan they took so long to conclude.
 
Lyall Thomas massively has the spurs angle. I expect Romano to be right. It will be higher than 12.5
 
Glad this whole saga seems like it's coming to an end.

I expected more than the £12.5m figure that's been quoted though. Obviously we don't know how achievable these add ons are, but they're surely not going to come easily.

Neco Williams just went for £17m - how do Liverpool continually get such high fees for their players?
 
joeychicago said:
Glad this whole saga seems like it's coming to an end.

I expected more than the £12.5m figure that's been quoted though. Obviously we don't know how achievable these add ons are, but they're surely not going to come easily.

Neco Williams just went for £17m - how do Liverpool continually get such high fees for their players?
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Romano saying it’s higher than 12.5 and so is John percy
 
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Andy_W said:
How is he going to get in for England ahead of Trent and all the other right back and RWB's who play week in week out for their clubs (there's loads)? He's got to get a game ahead of Emerson Royal and Doherty first, they only bought Royal last year for 26m.

City have Walker and Cancelo, two of the only players who can play right right back to go for over 50m I think, and the latter was part of a swap, both are way beyond where anyone could even dream of Spence getting to. Obviously walker will be off soon, but Cancelo won't. Cancelo also plays left back when Walker plays, but Right back when he doesn't.

I think best case is them later selling him for 20-25, but even that's a push. But that would only be 10m profit, so 10% of that is only £1m.
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To be fair I said he'd play for England as I'm sure it's a clause. You can still have a Stella season and not get in the England side.

I mean 'one good season' is 35-40 games as first choice. Then he's instantly worth more than 12.5mil.

A first choice RB at a so called 'big 6' side is worth over 30-50mil? He doesn't need to be better than Trent / James or even Walker.

Don't get me wrong he maybe w*nk and never get a kick and be loaned out in a year. Then we've made 12.5mil on someone we thought wasn't particularly good. Championship maybe is his level. Yet you'd think he'd get 'better' at spurs under Conte.

It's decent money for a guy who the majority (not just warnock) thought was brainless and couldn't defend (he really couldn't).
 
Good deal for us really. Definitely £12.5 million and could go up to £20 million. Plus whatever Forest gave us as a loan fee plus not having to pay his wages for a year.
All this for someone who doesn't want to be at the club, and most of the clubs supporters are glad to see the back of him.
 
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