Driving, is it worth it?

I don't really have any choice in the matter now. I'm trying to look after my elderly parents and my Dad has had to give up driving because he just isn't capable of doing it any more and some of the things that I need to do for them can't be done without me using my car. I don't particularly like driving these days and I tend to walk everywhere with the dog a lot of the time but I do still need to drive sometimes.
 
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I don't really have any choice in the matter these days. I'm trying to look after my elderly parents and my Dad has had to give up driving because he just isn't capable of doing it now and some of the things that I need to do for them can't be done without me using my car. I don't particularly like driving these days and I tend to walk everywhere with the dog a lot of the time but I do still need to drive sometimes.
Good fella bf, not an easy job.
 
Middle lane 'cruisers' and people not indicating are the single two biggest gripes. I rant about these two everytime I see a thread like this.

The middle lane cruising is simply becoming ridiculous. I drive roughly a 30 mile round trip daily to work. I will probably come accross 20-50 people in the wrong lane of the motor way on each 15 mile journey. It's frankly unbelievable 😕.

I'm no boy racer and usually sit between 60-70mph. I constantly have to move from the left lane because some whopper is doing 50-60 mph in the middle lane. Absolutely no f*cks given. It's usually a massive Range Rover or SUV.

The indicator rant is standard. It's as stated as in they have become an 'option'.

Also parking. This is usually the SUVs again. I'm also not being sexist but it's usually women doing a shop at tesco or picking up kids from school. They have these massive vehicles and just abandon them anywhere. I simply don't see why anyone needs a 4 wheel drive 3-5 litre vehicle to pick up one child or get a weekly shop?

I imagine the majority wouldn't know how to engage 4 wheel drive or diff locks etc.

Oh well rant over. I am sure I'll be able to add more after Saturdays Coventry trip.... UTB😂
 
Whilst drivers are responsible for much of the road madness we clearly all encounter frequently, some road planning boggles the mind. One example is the blue house roundabout between Gosforth and Newcastle. You approach in 3 lanes of traffic, but the roundabout is only 2 so someone is always forced over. I have to make this journey twice a week and twice a week I see the same thing: there just isn't anywhere for one of the cars to go because the roundabout isn't 3 lanes wide
 
Middle lane 'cruisers' and people not indicating are the single two biggest gripes. I rant about these two everytime I see a thread like this.

The middle lane cruising is simply becoming ridiculous. I drive roughly a 30 mile round trip daily to work. I will probably come accross 20-50 people in the wrong lane of the motor way on each 15 mile journey. It's frankly unbelievable 😕.

I'm no boy racer and usually sit between 60-70mph. I constantly have to move from the left lane because some whopper is doing 50-60 mph in the middle lane. Absolutely no f*cks given. It's usually a massive Range Rover or SUV.

The indicator rant is standard. It's as stated as in they have become an 'option'.

Also parking. This is usually the SUVs again. I'm also not being sexist but it's usually women doing a shop at tesco or picking up kids from school. They have these massive vehicles and just abandon them anywhere. I simply don't see why anyone needs a 4 wheel drive 3-5 litre vehicle to pick up one child or get a weekly shop?

I imagine the majority wouldn't know how to engage 4 wheel drive or diff locks etc.

Oh well rant over. I am sure I'll be able to add more after Saturdays Coventry trip.... UTB😂
This!

Everything he said. Middle lane joggers are the worst. Making our motorways both dangers and less effective (turning a3 lan road into a 2 lane road). I'm the same as you, it's simple shocking the amount of people who do this. ON the M25/M3 route I used to take to work there used to be a lot of 3rd lane joggers one a 4 lane motorway, Practically no point in adding the fourth lane!
 
I last drove in 1994.
Since then its been feet, cycle, bus, tram, plane, tube and taxi.

Given the inherent bias prioritising the private motor-car [since the 1960s], mobility continues to be made more and more difficult. [town planning - building football stadiums on the edge of town on ring roads - out-of-town shopping centres - creaking privatised bus and rail services and a chronic lack of alternative infrastructure - covering the country in tarmac and concrete].

There are viable alternatives, but no political will to lead from the top.

Only when the whole transport system hits the buffers with a bang will anything change.

Look out for the "freedom to drive and do what we want with our cars" fanatics and demonstrations.

Then it will be "we pay road tax" - but of course no-one pays "road tax" - Churchill abolished "road tax" in 1937 because the country couldnt keep up with the cost of new road building to accommodate the growth in the use of the motor car [in the 1930`s!!!]. From then on, the treasury has subsidised road vehicles by using money from general taxation.

Then we get into an "you`re anti-car" "I need my car for work" etc. But we have to change our whole attitude ....Im not holding my breath.

Here`s some figures from the RAC:
Q1) How many vehicles are there in Great Britain?

A1)
At the end of March 2021, there were 38.6 million licensed vehicles in Great Britain, a 0.8 per cent increase compared to the end of March 2020. This increase in licensed vehicles follows four consecutive quarters of year on year decline.

Cars make up the majority of licensed vehicles. In Great Britain, there were 31.7 million cars (82.1 per cent), 4.26 million LGVs (11 per cent), 0.48 million HGVs (1.2 per cent), 1.27 million motorcycles (3.3 per cent), 0.14 million buses & coaches (0.4 per cent) and 0.77 million other vehicles (2 per cent) licensed at the end of March 2021.

The total number of licensed vehicles has increased in all but two years (1991 & 2020) since the end of the Second World War.

Source: Vehicle Licensing Statistics: 2021 Quarter 1 (January – March)


Heres some interesting statistics:


Number of licensed cars in the United Kingdom (UK) from 2000 and 2019

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Personally I cant see things getting any better until they get a lot worse.
Interesting that HGVs are only 1.2%. They seem to take up a disproportionate amount of space on the roads, particularly motorways and major dual carriageways, beyond the obvious size effect.
 
I last drove in 1994.
Since then its been feet, cycle, bus, tram, plane, tube and taxi.

Given the inherent bias prioritising the private motor-car [since the 1960s], mobility continues to be made more and more difficult. [town planning - building football stadiums on the edge of town on ring roads - out-of-town shopping centres - creaking privatised bus and rail services and a chronic lack of alternative infrastructure - covering the country in tarmac and concrete].

There are viable alternatives, but no political will to lead from the top.

Only when the whole transport system hits the buffers with a bang will anything change.

Look out for the "freedom to drive and do what we want with our cars" fanatics and demonstrations.

Then it will be "we pay road tax" - but of course no-one pays "road tax" - Churchill abolished "road tax" in 1937 because the country couldnt keep up with the cost of new road building to accommodate the growth in the use of the motor car [in the 1930`s!!!]. From then on, the treasury has subsidised road vehicles by using money from general taxation.

Then we get into an "you`re anti-car" "I need my car for work" etc. But we have to change our whole attitude ....Im not holding my breath.

Here`s some figures from the RAC:
Q1) How many vehicles are there in Great Britain?

A1)
At the end of March 2021, there were 38.6 million licensed vehicles in Great Britain, a 0.8 per cent increase compared to the end of March 2020. This increase in licensed vehicles follows four consecutive quarters of year on year decline.

Cars make up the majority of licensed vehicles. In Great Britain, there were 31.7 million cars (82.1 per cent), 4.26 million LGVs (11 per cent), 0.48 million HGVs (1.2 per cent), 1.27 million motorcycles (3.3 per cent), 0.14 million buses & coaches (0.4 per cent) and 0.77 million other vehicles (2 per cent) licensed at the end of March 2021.

The total number of licensed vehicles has increased in all but two years (1991 & 2020) since the end of the Second World War.

Source: Vehicle Licensing Statistics: 2021 Quarter 1 (January – March)


Heres some interesting statistics:


Number of licensed cars in the United Kingdom (UK) from 2000 and 2019

View attachment 23999

Personally I cant see things getting any better until they get a lot worse.
Interesting that you think we don't pay road tax then talk about licensed vehicles.

The Road fund licence Most people pay yearly is a tax. Very clearly
 
I’d heard the newer Tesla’s won’t have steering wheels 2023 hit surely this date will be too early . I’m sure it will happen without the next 10 yrs ……hopefully anyway
unlikely by 2023, I think from a safety perspective being able to take control in an emergency is always likely to be needed
 
unlikely by 2023, I think from a safety perspective being able to take control in an emergency is always likely to be needed
This is true. I mentioned they have already removed the gear selector. They have still kept redundant buttons on the centre console for if the predictive gear selector or the secondary screen selector don't work. Which, if you've ever seen Tesla software, you can guarantee the predictive one won't work 60% of the time.
 
Funny enough I find driving standards have not changed much over the last 38 years of driving, but the number of cars etc has probably doubled. There was bad driving say in the 1980s just as there is now. When I was young there were drivers on the road who had never passed test. You did not have to take a test until late 1935 so most people born before 1918 just applied for a licence and could drive for life. There were no cameras on roads neither. I agree people hug the middle lane and I am guilty sometimes because it feels safer to do what most others are doing, opposed to be in a minority who to the approved thing and weave from lane to lane. Public transport is limited where I live so its more car or taxi. If I lived in a major city I would happily use public transport which is nearly always subsidised, probably from taxes collected on internal combustion cars and IC vehicles.
 
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