Everton going bust?

You just know that Everton will find an eventual buyer - brand new almost completed stadium which looks great - I do understand the fervent hope by some that they die but they wont. Far from it. There's too many ego fuelled billionaires in the world who would fancy a bit of Everton
 
Me and a mate went to the 1st game on the train, not wearing colours. We were very fortunate that two Everton fans got on at St Helens who we got chatting too and they took us to the ground via the Metro and Kirkdale station. There felt a very tense atmosphere around the ground with groups of lads on alert, but if you followed Boro away in those times that was normal, our divs kicked off everywhere or tried to, you just had to use your wits and not get noticed by the local welcoming committee. After the game, which it was constantly kicking off at, we tried to find Kirkdale metro but our own we got hopelessly lost. That whole area at night getting towards 6 was dodgy as ****, we passed loads of local lads hanging around and how we didn't end up zipped, I'm not quite sure. That match is notable in my mind for being very edgy, outside of the ground I didn't actually see anything, but it was obvious something had gone on. Back at lime street we jumped on a train at 7ish, there was loads of Boro divs on it, you recognise them and they see you on the road a lot so you just end up chatting and we got to hear about the incidents around Liverpool, it sounded like the Boro divs didn't have it their own way.
 
Mysonpat. said:
To give a balanced view on what happened between Boro and Everton...Boro lads did go through and smash a few pubs up before the game (this was when football violence was very bad) lots of bother, this started a 10 year period of bad blood between them, as always normal supporters get caught up in it and Everton at times did not discriminate, slashed lots of innocent lads.

If you come across a book called Scally (Everton lad) written by Nicholls it's Crazy what went on..a Boro lad even drove a car into them as they left the train station one year..
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I'm sure that was the 1st game on the Saturday and not the night replay??
 
exeterboro said:
Me and a mate went to the 1st game on the train, not wearing colours. We were very fortunate that two Everton fans got on at St Helens who we got chatting too and they took us to the ground via the Metro and Kirkdale station. There felt a very tense atmosphere around the ground with groups of lads on alert, but if you followed Boro away in those times that was normal, our divs kicked off everywhere or tried to, you just had to use your wits and not get noticed by the local welcoming committee. After the game, which it was constantly kicking off at, we tried to find Kirkdale metro but our own we got hopelessly lost. That whole area at night getting towards 6 was dodgy as ****, we passed loads of local lads hanging around and how we didn't end up zipped, I'm not quite sure. That match is notable in my mind for being very edgy, outside of the ground I didn't actually see anything, but it was obvious something had gone on. Back at lime street we jumped on a train at 7ish, there was loads of Boro divs on it, you recognise them and they see you on the road a lot so you just end up chatting and we got to hear about the incidents around Liverpool, it sounded like the Boro divs didn't have it their own way.
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That's why I stopped following the Boro in the 80s and early 90s...the police hated us, the locals hated us because of who was following the club round back then...times have changed so much for the better.
 
morrissey said:
FA Cup 2nd replay - shocking weather, snowed all the way over the M62.
Got to Liverpool, walking towards Goodison, hoods up heads down (weather). Several Boro fans slashed with Stanley blades by Everton lads who sneaked up, did it then scarpered. I missed the 2nd half locked-up in the concrete bunker under Goodison, cost me £220 fine.
Some games mind, we took 5,500 to both at Everton and should have won at Ayresome.
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We had exactly the same experience.
Cowardly *******. One slashed one of us on Priory Road and ran off. Police not interested, told us he was lucky it wasn't a double blade and was sharp.
I followed my young cousin to hospital where there were knife casualties all over.
13 Boro fans slashed or stabbed that night.
Spent hours in the hospital then drove him home to tell his parents. Very **** night.

To the poster above who talked of being mugged in Tenerife, I can't believe you would equate it with hating all Spaniards. You had to attend those Everton matches and be involved to understand. I detest them.
I followed Boro away all over the country in the 80's in particular. Have been relieved Frontline were a force on a number of occasions.
 
I'm younger than most on this board so don't remember the dark days but was the victim of an unprovoked attack coming out of Goodison in the early 00s.
My brother was spotted with a Boro top underneath his hoodie on a bus back to the City when a bloke headbutted him with no warning and about 6 lads set amongst us. We were aged 16-18. The attackers were in their 30s and big lads. We ended up getting turfed off the bus in the middle of nowhere and police picked us up and took us back to the train station.

Hated Everton ever since.
 
Wiseman_Vaughn said:
Todays Guardian
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In summary.....

This is an article about Everton’s financial crisis. It discusses the club’s attempt to build a new stadium and the financial difficulties this has caused. The owner, Farhad Moshiri, pledged to fund the stadium himself but has since needed outside investment. The club has borrowed heavily from lenders such as Rights and Media Funding (RMF). These debts have become so large that Everton is now at risk of insolvency.
 
indeedido said:
We had exactly the same experience.
Cowardly *******. One slashed one of us on Priory Road and ran off. Police not interested, told us he was lucky it wasn't a double blade and was sharp.
I followed my young cousin to hospital where there were knife casualties all over.
13 Boro fans slashed or stabbed that night.
Spent hours in the hospital then drove him home to tell his parents. Very **** night.

To the poster above who talked of being mugged in Tenerife, I can't believe you would equate it with hating all Spaniards. You had to attend those Everton matches and be involved to understand. I detest them.
I followed Boro away all over the country in the 80's in particular. Have been relieved Frontline were a force on a number of occasions.
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Yeah thinking back, the Frontline did come in handy a few times..remember away late 80s QPR, thought there would be no trouble, went for the weekend and met a mate who was working in London, first pub we went in not far from the ground, a group of lads sat in the corner, no colours on, big grizzly blokes, my mate had a Boro top on under his jacket "where you from lads" great a Teesside accent, the lads were from Stockton and Billingham, not long after another group walked in, I recognised a couple of faces from them working the doors in Boro, mate says this is the frontline (they were meeting up)..we drink up and leave.
After the match, walking through the streets big gangs of lads picking Boro supporters off, they had cut the road off spread out, we turned to walk back the other way, as we would have got a kicking, no police about, and from nowhere the lads we had seen earlier scattered them...that time we were pleased to see them...
 
All those years of £ millions sloshing around the Premier League an Everton are in the ****
Where’s it all gone? No money in the tin for a rainy day? Easy come, easy go.
"Best League in the world" and SKY have really helped improve English football haven't they !? (n)
 
r00fie1 said:
All those years of £ millions sloshing around the Premier League an Everton are in the ****
Where’s it all gone? No money in the tin for a rainy day? Easy come, easy go.
"Best League in the world" and SKY have really helped improve English football haven't they !? (n)
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They've spent a **** load over the last 6 years and should be floating around the Champions League places.
 
Without sounding like a grumpy middle aged git.... The TV money and financing of PL clubs is just an utter nonsense which is the ultimate paradox.... . On the one hand it's supposedly the best league in the world..... While conversely on the other hand it's killing itself...... What it's doing is... This money is being given to idiots at football clubs who then continually overspend..... And overspend and overspend...... Financial fair play .... Waste of time..... Most clubs will take the risk at deduction of 4 points..... There's never any penalty for beaches in the EFL for clubs that are promoted to the PL who have broken rules in promotion seasons...... Leicester will be one.... Bournemouth were another ..... I'm sure there have been others ..... Yet I know we don't like Derby...... Their penalties on contrast to Forest and Everton .... Utter joke..... No balance at all.

But the one point that never changes is...... It's players wages...... Each time TV money is increased...... The only benefit is..... Players wages......I have zero sympathy for Everton because they have pxssed all that money on poor recruitment and inflated contracts. It's their own stupid fault...... Forest are the next Everton waiting to happen.....

And my last rant..... None of that money is ever used to reduce ticket prices for fans.....

The system is broken but that is masked by Corporate TV deals.
 
naively_optimistic said:
Without sounding like a grumpy middle aged git.... The TV money and financing of PL clubs is just an utter nonsense which is the ultimate paradox.... . On the one hand it's supposedly the best league in the world..... While conversely on the other hand it's killing itself...... What it's doing is... This money is being given to idiots at football clubs who then continually overspend..... And overspend and overspend...... Financial fair play .... Waste of time..... Most clubs will take the risk at deduction of 4 points..... There's never any penalty for beaches in the EFL for clubs that are promoted to the PL who have broken rules in promotion seasons...... Leicester will be one.... Bournemouth were another ..... I'm sure there have been others ..... Yet I know we don't like Derby...... Their penalties on contrast to Forest and Everton .... Utter joke..... No balance at all.

But the one point that never changes is...... It's players wages...... Each time TV money is increased...... The only benefit is..... Players wages......I have zero sympathy for Everton because they have pxssed all that money on poor recruitment and inflated contracts. It's their own stupid fault...... Forest are the next Everton waiting to happen.....

And my last rant..... None of that money is ever used to reduce ticket prices for fans.....

The system is broken but that is masked by Corporate TV deals.
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100 percent this with all the tv money they should be reducing ticket prices not just paying people on crazy money even more crazy money and their agents
 
Wonder if there's ever any redress for incidents like Gylfi Sigurdsson - paid 45m for him, arrested, didn't play for them for what 18 months+? and then gone at the end of his contract on a free.

Not sure where they'd be compensated from - police, insurance? Just seems crazy they can pay £45m for someone who they're then effectively forced to ban from the squad who's subsequently released without charge.

Same with Johnson at Sunderland - by far their best player, jailed and they go down the next year - obviously he was guilty but does the value just disappear into thin air or do they receive some sort of compo from someone? Could say they might have never been relegated without his crime.
 
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