F*CK VAR

I really feel VAR feeds into nonsense like forest throwing their toys out of the pram.

We really need to get to a place where it's accepted as a game. That referees are fallible and will make mistakes.

And if they do it's just tough titty.

Rather than this ludicrous situation we have currently where more time is spent forensically examining every refereeing decision on TV than actually watching the stuff.
 
Sheriff_John_Bunnell_ret said:
I really feel VAR feeds into nonsense like forest throwing their toys out of the pram.

We really need to get to a place where it's accepted as a game. That referees are fallible and will make mistakes.

And if they do it's just tough titty.

Rather than this ludicrous situation we have currently where more time is spent forensically examining every refereeing decision on TV than actually watching the stuff.
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Fast forward to 2045:

GL: As you can see, the VAR electron microscope confirms two quarks on the lad's left eyebrow are beyond the last defender.

AS: Absolutely Gary. It's not a even close decision. He's blatantly taking unfair advantage of the strong nuclear force.

MR: Ahahahahahaha 😛 😛
 
viv_andersons_nana said:
Which one? The three or four at Everton? The two at Wembley today? The Man United lad being punished for having an arm. Judging a marginal offside despite not having access to directly in-line footage. Ashley Young’s trio of penalties. You can pick whichever one you want.
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If you don't want VAR then the Forest-Everton decisions would have stayed the same anyway without it
 
TeessideCleveland said:
If you don't want VAR then the Forest-Everton decisions would have stayed the same anyway without it
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But that's not a good reason to have it. What you're essentially saying is that you're happy with an inconsistent approach to the application of the laws.

VAR should have overturned the last one at the very least. The ref stated his decision as being due to Young getting the ball. It was a clear and obvious error.

If we're now just expected to accept that the refs decision is final then what is VAR for?
 
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Ironops said:
I think id leave it to the referee and linesman to make the call and unless there was a clear and obvious error - like the guy being a yard offside - then the on pitch decision stands. I dont think this was a clear and obvious error, the two players were effectively level with one having a toe in front of the other, but not gaining any advantage by doing so.
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So it has been accepted for many years now that, under the current way the law is written and interpreted, human beings cannot determine correctly if a player is offside. They can do that well (i.e. experience and training can mitigate some of the error) but the speeds involved in the game at the higher levels mean that it is biologically impossible for the referee team to judge offside accurately. We have now moved to a situation even more ridiculous, where (given the frame rate for the pictures used to judge offside) the technology used cannot do the job with total accuracy 😀 The picture used to determine when 'The first point of contact of the 'play' or 'touch' of the ball' occurs during an offside judgement on screen might not actually show that point, but the point just before or just after. Depending on the speed of the ball and the speed of the player being judged as offside, I imagine the grey area is probably a bit more than a toenails worth (probably a foot or so). So it is only correct to say a player was judged to be in an offside position, which is the same as for parks football, there's no certainty at all in the close cases (such as the Coventry one) unless by chance the picture frame used does actually show the time of the touch.
 
ThePrisoner said:
At the cost of ruining the entire game with delay after delay after delay. If I want that I can watch that American Football dross.

Get rid of all the subs while we're on. Three allowed on the bench and you can make two subs max. That's plenty.
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Which is why I said it should have only been applied initially to check offsides and if a pen was in or out of the box
 
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