FA Cup replays scrapped.

I'd have to see the finances on it but I'm not a big fan of the way a cup tie against a big team to generate money is a prize. It means clubs can't predict anything. If one league 2 team gets an away draw at Old Trafford then that one team makes £1m and the rest of the league makes £0. It would be better if that income was given to all teams evenly. I.e. if the total "lost" by having a replay at a big team away is smaller than the extra money that is distributed to all teams then that is a net positive.

The best thing would be for all money to be distributed evenly to all teams within the round of the cup. If a non-league cup makes the 3rd round for example but gets drawn against another non-league club or a L2 club then they make no money from it. All the big clubs get their matches televised so they make more money. Was anyone interested in Palace v Everton, Spurs v Burnley etc? Probably not but more people will tune in than they would to Maidstone vs Eastleigh which is why they are chosen but they don't need the money. It would have been better if some of that broadcast income went to Newport, Aldershot, Eastleigh, Maidstone etc.

Replays and 2nd legs makes it more likely that the better team wins. Getting rid of replays is actually a positive thing for smaller clubs.

The seasons around covid had no replays. We beat Utd at Old Trafford and Spurs at home on penalties and in extra time respectively. If there had been replays that season we'd have had a replay at home against Utd and a replay away at Spurs. Would we have won either of them? Probably not. We would have had a "payday" by playing Utd at home but if we had lost it then we wouldn't have got the home games against Spurs and Chelsea.
 
Piccadilly Day Tripper said:
The important thing is that club of the people Liverpool and plucky underdogs Man City will be able to play a few more friendlies on international soil in the middle of the season, to get the Far East dollar, without having to worry about a Tuesday night in Shrewsbury. That's good for the whole football pyramid, isn't it?
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It’s a great point. If you whinge about fixture congestion then take your first team squad to Australia or Japan or Saudi for a few money spinning friendlies, either mid season or after, you’ve forfeited your right to whinge about fixture congestion.
 
It’s a sad thing. Someone did the numbers somewhere and worked out that it averages about one L1 or below team who get a replay against a PL team every season, so a windfall of about £1m. That’s a lot for a L1 club, transformative for a non-league team as it can pay for them for 5 years. So yeah it’s a lottery ticket, but someone wins it every season.

The realist in me sees that the domestic cups have lost their shine and this is a straightforward way to reduce the calendar. But it’s such a shame for lower league clubs - who are the only ones keeping the FA Cup magic alive.
 
Sheriff_John_Bunnell_ret said:
Thing is tho when have spurs and Newcastle ever complained about fixture congestion? It tends to be the successful teams that have lots of fixtures to play.
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Mourinho sends ultimatum to Premier League and FA over fixture congestion

Jose Mourinho has sent a strong statement to Premier League organisers over Tottenham's condensed fixture list and the need to fit in rearranged fixtures.
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Tottenham get penalised a lot during fixture schedule - Conte

Tottenham Hotspur head coach Antonio Conte has called the congested fixture schedule “crazy” and believes his side have been disproportionately affected. Speaking ahead of his side’s Champions League tie against Marseille, which starts a run of 17 games in 10 weeks, Conte said: “Honestly to...
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I notice that Tuesday afternoon sees the 2nd reading in Parliament of the Football Governance Bill. Could it be that the FA and Premier League have really shot themselves in the foot again with what EFL described as their "bilateral announcement" about ending FA Cup replays. This cup replays announcement will be very much on everyone's mind when the bill is debated and discussed in the house. There are an awful lot more MPs and constituencies of EFL clubs rather than the Premier League. The calls for an Independent Regulator are going to be even stronger now.
 
The FA Cup diminished the moment Manchester United were disgracefully allowed to surrender their place in the 1999-2000competition to play in the World Club Chamionships. They won it the year before so didn't defend their title. Incidently Darlington were the lucky losers to replace them.
 
Low_Key said:
i looks like they are trying to "sneak" things through before any regulator is in place
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Yep I think so too but it could well backfire because the uproar is such people are now pressing for the regulator to more teeth.
We may be doing them too much credit here. That may well have just thought the EFL and the clubs would roll over and the public too. But fans and clubs up and down the land are furious.
 
The worst thing about this is I'm reading all the premier league managers this afternoon saying its about protecting the players, If that was true I'd have less issue with it but they just want less games so they can have these high profile friendly games in the US and Dubai to make more money its got nothing to do with protecting players.

Like most things these days football has become what's best for the people at the top and everyone else have to live with whatever they want.
 
Christans1967 said:
The FA Cup diminished the moment Manchester United were disgracefully allowed to surrender their place in the 1999-2000competition to play in the World Club Chamionships. They won it the year before so didn't defend their title. Incidently Darlington were the lucky losers to replace them.
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The FA Cup diminished the moment the Premier League was formed, and being in the Premier League became an absolute obsession to the exclusion of everything else. The cup went from being what everyone wanted to watch to what nobody could be bothered to watch. In Boro’s case, almost overnight. In the 91–92 promotion season our highest home attendance was still in the FA Cup. In the 94-95 promotion season it was our lowest.
 
FishofContemplation said:
The FA Cup diminished the moment the Premier League was formed, and being in the Premier League became an absolute obsession to the exclusion of everything else. The cup went from being what everyone wanted to watch to what nobody could be bothered to watch. In Boro’s case, almost overnight. In the 91–92 promotion season our highest home attendance was still in the FA Cup. In the 94-95 promotion season it was our lowest.
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Agreed; Man U sitting it out was a minor detail in it's decline. There was a lot of spite towards MU at that time in football, and that incident,which wasn't entirely their decision, has been used as an excuse to kick them since.

What I think really did for the FA cup was Liverpool, Man U, Arsenal and Chelsea fielding weakened teams, but still winning 14 out of the first 15 cups in the PL era.

Realising they could dominate it without playing their full team before the semi finals really took the gloss off
 
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