Footballers are not very bright part 28

Quizball in the 1970s. Who remembers that?

Clever footballers on display. (Just for balance). Ian Ure Arsenal CH and Jiohn Osborne the WBA GK especially quick on the uptake.
 
festa5 said:
The thing with footballers is you don't need to be intelligent to be one. Unlike many other occupations where a degree of intelligence is required.
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It also depends on how you define intelligence, though.

There's a fairly popular view that the more traditional view of intelligence as simply relating to mental acuity is way too limited.

Under this theory, there are as many as eight kinds of intelligence: visual-spatial, verbal-linguistic, musical-rhythmic, logical-mathematical, interpersonal, intrapersonal, naturalistic and bodily-kinaesthetic.

If you accept these categories, successful footballers (and other sports people) obviously have high levels of both visual-spatial and bodily-kinaesthetic intelligence.
 
Not knowing pop culture isn’t a sign of being thick. Listening to him occasionally, his IQ won’t be concerning Mensa I’m sure. Yet he’s on there to talk about football, for which his knowledge base is far greater than us on here whom never played premier league and international football. For that we’re the thick ones.
 
It definitely doesn't make you dumb. I can clearly name the beatles but have little or no interest in music (as weird as that sounds). I couldn't tell you a No1 from the last 5 years. Probably more. I still listen to 00s trance in my car lol.

I watch I'm a celeb or celebrity master chef etc and frankly have to Google 50% of the 'celebs'. Yet all the young people I work with say 'how can you not know who they are?' talking about YouTubers and reality tv people.

It's more down to age or interests. I work with people who couldn't name 5 star wars characters. Shocking😂

I imagine you find as many 'dumb' footballers as 'dumb' builders / retail staff and armed forces members etc (I'm not picking on these jobs... Just making a point and I was armed forces😉)
 
Liamo said:
It also depends on how you define intelligence, though.

There's a fairly popular view that the more traditional view of intelligence as simply relating to mental acuity is way too limited.

Under this theory, there are as many as eight kinds of intelligence: visual-spatial, verbal-linguistic, musical-rhythmic, logical-mathematical, interpersonal, intrapersonal, naturalistic and bodily-kinaesthetic.

If you accept these categories, successful footballers (and other sports people) obviously have high levels of both visual-spatial and bodily-kinaesthetic intelligence.
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Aye, the definition of intelligence isn't that straightforward. They certainly excel at certain mental abilities. I just don't think the average bloke in the street would usually equate those abilities with intelligence (probably an entirely different debate).

In the layman definition, plenty of them do come across as pretty thick. Albeit it's probably far fewer of them than the stereotype suggests.
 
S7DiscoDown said:
It definitely doesn't make you dumb. I can clearly name the beatles but have little or no interest in music (as weird as that sounds). I couldn't tell you a No1 from the last 5 years. Probably more. I still listen to 00s trance in my car lol.

I watch I'm a celeb or celebrity master chef etc and frankly have to Google 50% of the 'celebs'. Yet all the young people I work with say 'how can you not know who they are?' talking about YouTubers and reality tv people.

It's more down to age or interests. I work with people who couldn't name 5 star wars characters. Shocking😂

I imagine you find as many 'dumb' footballers as 'dumb' builders / retail staff and armed forces members etc (I'm not picking on these jobs... Just making a point and I was armed forces😉)
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Agree that poor general knowledge doesn't necessarily mean you're thick.

But disagree knowledge of the Beatles is comparable to knowledge of love island or star wars. The Beatles aren't just a specialist interest topic, they're historically and culturally significant. There's an airport named after one of them!

It's maybe not quite the same level, but it's on similar lines as not knowing who the PM is. You might not be interested in politics, but still a bit unusual to find someone who doesn't know. I bet there's a few who don't or didnt mind. Certainly when May was charge.
 
I suspect every generation has said similar about the previous , just as the current " yoof" think we are just as boring as we thought our Parents were.
However we now have a slight advantage that might allow us to compare.
I watched the " Ripper" on Netflix recently and was struck by now articulate and thoughtful the members of the public, shown in TV interviews at the time, were.
Do the TV crews seek out chuckle now or have we fallen so far behind ?
 
Osboro said:
I suspect every generation has said similar about the previous , just as the current " yoof" think we are just as boring as we thought our Parents were.
However we now have a slight advantage that might allow us to compare.
I watched the " Ripper" on Netflix recently and was struck by now articulate and thoughtful the members of the public, shown in TV interviews at the time, were.
Do the TV crews seek out chuckle now or have we fallen so far behind ?
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They must seek out the idiots. I'm pretty sure. Particularly in northern towns it seems.

Some of the brexit interviews were farcical. I'm very pro-remain and think brexit is crazy. But some of the "brexiters" they found to interview at the time were ridiculously thick. I can't believe they were truly representative of the population as a whole.
 
Osboro said:
I suspect every generation has said similar about the previous , just as the current " yoof" think we are just as boring as we thought our Parents were.
However we now have a slight advantage that might allow us to compare.
I watched the " Ripper" on Netflix recently and was struck by now articulate and thoughtful the members of the public, shown in TV interviews at the time, were.
Do the TV crews seek out chuckle now or have we fallen so far behind ?
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Perhaps appearing on the telly back then was a bit more prestigious and less commonplace than it is now, so you made more of an effort ???
 
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