Geordie & Mackem Local Restrictions

Tommy_Dickfingers

Tommy_Dickfingers

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Hancock saying it is 'illegal' to now sit at a table in a pub, even if 2mtr apart, and have a pint with your family or friends (if they don't live in same household).

I'm all for everyone doing their bit, masks etc but to make this actually illegal seems like they're totally missing what the public are now feeling about this pandemic and their handling of it.

We're 6 months in and the only plan they have is lockdown or part lockdown, there is no end game from them and now the party who didn't sack Cummings for breaking every guidance at the time, are going all Big Brother on us and telling swaithes of the population that what used to be normal is now against the law.

And all done without Parliamentary debate .............. hmmm, interesting times coming as I suspect the public will quickly turn even further against this rabble in charge.
 
Crippling restriction for pubs if it was actually adhered to properly, which I can't see happening.

Just shut them down, the government are *******.
 
Living up here I think there are three chances of that happening. Slim. Fat. And Non.
In order for my son who is type 1 diabetic to go to work as a teacher when previously he was shielding, I think I have to break the law and look after my granddaughter. I say I think but I am pretty sure I am.
What have you got to say about that Dom?
 
WindyNook said:
Living up here I think there are three chances of that happening. Slim. Fat. And Non.
In order for my son who is type 1 diabetic to go to work as a teacher when previously he was shielding, I think I have to break the law and look after my granddaughter. I say I think but I am pretty sure I am.
What have you got to say about that Dom?
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I think they are still saying that it is ok for Grandparents to look after their grandkids as long as it's consistent ......... whatever that means ?

If they brought it in that they couldn't I'd take no notice whatsoever and still have my kids looked after by my parents, as they do now.
 
Another finger in the air policy that is impractical from a business level, unworkable from a policing angle and shows disregard for the vast majority who are making efforts to fulfil their responsibilities with regard to the guidelines, they’ve had months to formulate a workable, sensible, road map out of lockdown but it really is all over the place, an analogue issue which need slow steady controlled phasing has been turned into a binary stop/go situation.

The natives are restless and things are getting worse, more nonsense guidelines will not ameliorate the situation, take action against premises and those that break the guidelines but punishing individuals that have done no wrong is not the way to win back trust and navigate back to ‘normality’.
 
Tommy_Dickfingers said:
I think they are still saying that it is ok for Grandparents to look after their grandkids as long as it's consistent ......... whatever that means ?

If they brought it in that they couldn't I'd take no notice whatsoever and still have my kids looked after by my parents, as they do now.
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Same here.
I will never ever stop my parents seeing their grandchildren ever again. If they want to see their grandchildren and have then round to the house it's their choice.
I saw the downward spiral in attitude and behaviour my two young children displayed during the first lockdown. Never again.
 
RandySavage said:
Same here.
I will never ever stop my parents seeing their grandchildren ever again. If they want to see their grandchildren and have then round to the house it's their choice.
I saw the downward spiral in attitude and behaviour my two young children displayed during the first lockdown. Never again.
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My In-Laws have categorically said they will not go through that again and they'd rather take the risk than not see their Grandkids as that is the epicentre of their lives now and what makes them get up in the morning.
 
Agree with OP, guidance is one thing but I'm extremely uncomfortable with things that are essentially perfectly innocent (and highly subjective/easy to pass off as something else) made illegal practically overnight. The government are totally misjudging the mood now and the only good thing I can see coming of it is their even quicker departure.
 
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Tommy_Dickfingers said:
Hancock saying it is 'illegal' to now sit at a table in a pub, even if 2mtr apart, and have a pint with your family or friends (if they don't live in same household).

I'm all for everyone doing their bit, masks etc but to make this actually illegal seems like they're totally missing what the public are now feeling about this pandemic and their handling of it.

We're 6 months in and the only plan they have is lockdown or part lockdown, there is no end game from them and now the party who didn't sack Cummings for breaking every guidance at the time, are going all Big Brother on us and telling swaithes of the population that what used to be normal is now against the law.

And all done without Parliamentary debate .............. hmmm, interesting times coming as I suspect the public will quickly turn even further against this rabble in charge.
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Unless I've misunderstood, I don't think that's the case if I interpret the law in a particularly pedantic fashion: i.e. I can go to the pub with my wife and sit at a table. If another couple we know happen to come in and sit at the next table, 2m away, then we are not breaking the law. The law says we should not socialise with people outside our household (or support bubble) indoors. We would also not be breaking the law if we sat outside and pre-booked a table for no more than 6 and no more than 2 households

I'm clear that we should not meet anyone AT ALL either inside or outside in a private home environment.

Happy (indeed grateful) to be corrected if I'm wrong, and I'm not in favour of trying to bend the rules/law/'do a Cummings' for the sake of a pint, but if my understanding is correct, in the above scenarios I would not be breaking the law?
 
Tommy_Dickfingers said:
My In-Laws have categorically said they will not go through that again and they'd rather take the risk than not see their Grandkids as that is the epicentre of their lives now and what makes them get up in the morning.
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Same reasons here. Both sets of grandparents all recently retired so they could spend more time with the grandchildren. I won't let some jumped up, little power hungry twerp called Hancock dictate how my family interacts with one another.
 
Artie Fufkin said:
Unless I've misunderstood, I don't think that's the case if I interpret the law in a particularly pedantic fashion: i.e. I can go to the pub with my wife and sit at a table. If another couple we know happen to come in and sit at the next table, 2m away, then we are not breaking the law. The law says we should not socialise with people outside our household (or support bubble) indoors. We would also not be breaking the law if we sat outside and pre-booked a table for no more than 6 and no more than 2 households

I'm clear that we should not meet anyone AT ALL either inside or outside in a private home environment.

Happy (indeed grateful) to be corrected if I'm wrong, and I'm not in favour of trying to bend the rules/law/'do a Cummings' for the sake of a pint, but if my understanding is correct, in the above scenarios I would not be breaking the law?
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There in lies the problem, no one knows exactly what the new law is by the looks of it.
I read it that you could have a friend sat at the next table on a 1m+ rule that hospitality can use, but you and they couldn't sit at opposite ends of a 2mtr long table ??

This government couldn't think on their feet or firefight with a hose connected to the North Sea.
 
Households in the region had already been advised to avoid mixing but the new ban will be enforced with fines.
Gateshead Council leader Martin Gannon accepted the rules were "necessary" but said the authority had been "inundated" by people asking for details.
"It is a bit chaotic how these things happen," he said.
On Radio 4's Today programme Ms [Gillian] Keegan was unable to clarify whether the new restrictions stopped people meeting outside in pub and restaurant gardens, as well as inside.

She was pressed on how people were supposed to keep up to date with the latest restrictions when ministers could not and said: "I'm sorry I can't answer that question.
"I'm sure there are many people who could - I don't represent the North East."

the above 2 lines really grind my gears! :poop::unsure:

"It'll be laid out and it will be clear to people in those areas, it will be communicated very clearly what they are."

The BBC has been told that mixing with other households in pub gardens or outdoor restaurant spaces in the North East is not being made illegal but goes against advice.


https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-54336735
 
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