Glastonbury Censorship

[BlindBoyGrunt]

Glastonbury organisers have pulled the planned screening of the film "Oh Jeremy Corbyn: The Big Lie" narrated by Alexei Sayle and featuring Jewish activist Moshé Machover after complaints from the Board of Deputies that it promotes antiSemitism.

Rock and Roll

 

[Easterside_Red]

Good.

 

[atypical_boro]

Glastonbury organisers have pulled the planned screening of the film "Oh Jeremy Corbyn: The Big Lie" narrated by Alexei Sayle and featuring Jewish activist Moshé Machover after complaints from the Board of Deputies that it promotes antiSemitism.

Rock and Roll

Not censorship though is it? They've just bowed to pressure from the BOD.

 

[MichaelDebeve]

Glastonbury organisers have pulled the planned screening of the film "Oh Jeremy Corbyn: The Big Lie" narrated by Alexei Sayle and featuring Jewish activist Moshé Machover after complaints from the Board of Deputies that it promotes antiSemitism.

Rock and Roll

Is Will Young still on the Avalon Stage though?

 

[Muttley]

Without seeing the film or knowing of its contents it is difficult to meaningfully comment. So I will just state that I fear that the conflation of "Anti Zionism" with "Anti Semitism" is at work.

 

[Ziggy]

I would like to see it and make my own decision on its content. Whose interests are served by not allowing me to make an informed decision.

 

[sweet_left_foot]

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[Easterside_Red]

I would like to see it and make my own decision on its content. Whose interests are served by not allowing me to make an informed decision.

You can see it in many places it's not banned. Glastonbury doesn't want to show it and the organisers can't be compelled to show it. It's not censorship in it's truest sense.

 

[atypical_boro]

I would like to see it and make my own decision on its content. Whose interests are served by not allowing me to make an informed decision.

You could make the same argument about a Tommy Robinson film.

I think people need to let go of the Corbyn thing. I liked him at first but he got trounced largely because of his non-existence policy on Brexit and failure to connect with the working classes, it wasn't purely down to the media smearing.

 

[BlindBoyGrunt]

Not censorship though is it? They've just bowed to pressure from the BOD.

Of course it's censorship.

"Censorship is the suppression of speech, public communication, or other information. This may be done on the basis that such material is considered objectionable, harmful, sensitive, or "inconvenient."
The producer Norman Thomas said: “Outside pressure groups have declared war on our film. They wrote to the festival’s sponsors, including Vodaphone, and whipped up huge storm of complaints about the film claiming, without any foundation whatsoever, that the film is antiSemitic.”

The festival organisers have had a lawyer examine the film and he declared it totally devoid of antiSemitism, so regardless of who is ultimately responsible for this - be it the lobbyists or Emily Eavis herself - this is censorship.

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[Brian Marwood]

Of course it's censorship.

"Censorship is the suppression of speech, public communication, or other information. This may be done on the basis that such material is considered objectionable, harmful, sensitive, or "inconvenient."
The producer Norman Thomas said: “Outside pressure groups have declared war on our film. They wrote to the festival’s sponsors, including Vodaphone, and whipped up huge storm of complaints about the film claiming, without any foundation whatsoever, that the film is antiSemitic.”

The festival organisers have had a lawyer examine the film and he declared it totally devoid of antiSemitism, so regardless of who is ultimately responsible for this - be it the lobbyists or Emily Eavis herself - this is censorship.

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dorseteye.com

Is it censorship if I choose not to play it when my parents come to visit on Sunday too?

 

[atypical_boro]

Of course it's censorship.

"Censorship is the suppression of speech, public communication, or other information. This may be done on the basis that such material is considered objectionable, harmful, sensitive, or "inconvenient."
The producer Norman Thomas said: “Outside pressure groups have declared war on our film. They wrote to the festival’s sponsors, including Vodaphone, and whipped up huge storm of complaints about the film claiming, without any foundation whatsoever, that the film is antiSemitic.”

The festival organisers have had a lawyer examine the film and he declared it totally devoid of antiSemitism, so regardless of who is ultimately responsible for this - be it the lobbyists or Emily Eavis herself - this is censorship.

Glastonbury succumbing to apartheid lobby sees boom in showing of Corbyn film - Dorset Eye

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dorseteye.com

Glastonbury have chosen to change their mind on showing a film. The government haven't intervened or suppressed it, unless I've missed something?

They are also not showing Jurassic Park, is that suppression?

 

[BlindBoyGrunt]

They are also not showing Jurassic Park, is that suppression?

I've no idea. Were they scheduling a screening of Jurassic Park until a pressure group made inaccurate claims about it's contents?

 

[Johnny Vincents Motorbike]

It is censorship.

Glastonbury have a cinema showing a whole range of films, some cutting edge, lefty, arty etc - i believe its called the Pilton Palais.

i read that someone said that 'glastonbury has lost its soul' over this - it lost its meaning and soul around 1990 - now its just a white middleclass debenture and rite of passage - disgusting place - no different to the Henley Regatta.

nice to see 'King Rocker' is being shown - one of our own is in that little celluloid !.

Glastonbury Festival - Pilton Palais Cinema

Glastonbury Festival of Contemporary Performing Arts

www.glastonburyfestivals.co.uk

 

[MichaelDebeve]

I've no idea. Were they scheduling a screening of Jurassic Park until a pressure group made inaccurate claims about it's contents?

Yes, but people were up in arms about whether its plausible to breed dinosaurs from sticky fossilized tree resin.

 

[atypical_boro]

I've no idea. Were they scheduling a screening of Jurassic Park until a pressure group made inaccurate claims about it's contents?

No, but if you think pressure groups/organisations persuading people to change their minds on things is censorship, then there's a lot of stuff going on in the world today that falls into that category, this being just one of countless examples.

 

[Ziggy]

You could make the same argument about a Tommy Robinson film.

I think people need to let go of the Corbyn thing. I liked him at first but he got trounced largely because of his non-existence policy on Brexit and failure to connect with the working classes, it wasn't purely down to the media smearing.

I am not interested in Corbyn, never have been an acolyte. He’s just another politician, and he’s now gone. He’s just handy for certain sections of the political establishment to pull out as a bogeyman.

 

[Ziggy]

You can see it in many places it's not banned. Glastonbury doesn't want to show it and the organisers can't be compelled to show it. It's not censorship in it's truest sense.

They were originally going too

 

[Easterside_Red]

I read that someone said that 'glastonbury has lost its soul' over this - it lost its meaning and soul around 1990 - now its just a white middleclass debenture and rite of passage - disgusting place - no different to the Henley Regatta.

I completely agree.

However, Glastonbury is not a public body and although they can be criticised for making a u-turn due to external pressures and the possible loss of a major sponsor I still think they are within their rights to cancel the showing. It can only be true censorship if there is absolutely no other means of seeing the film. And there is.

 

[atypical_boro]

I completely agree.

However, Glastonbury is not a public body and although they can be criticised for making a u-turn due to external pressures and the possible loss of a major sponsor I still think they are within their rights to cancel the showing. It can only be true censorship if there is absolutely no other means of seeing the film. And there is.

"Censorship can be conducted by governments, private institutions and other controlling bodies."

Glastonbury is none of these things, its a music festival in a field attended by a tiny fraction of the population. The film is not being banned, nor should it be. The BOD don't have that much power either.