coluka
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That is not JUST what Gibson asked of him though. You know it too, if you don’t then you are maybe a little blinkered as well as sarcastic.
Great finish by Bamford
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That is not JUST what Gibson asked of him though. You know it too, if you don’t then you are maybe a little blinkered as well as sarcastic.
Muttley
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He was tasked, as you say, with restructuring the football club. With managing a reduction in the wage bill and the squad size. That Pullis chose to do this by (effectively) swapping Bamford for Saville is Pullis' decision not Gibson's unless you seriously believe that a Chairman renowned for supporting his managers sold Bamford behind Pullis back? Indeed Pullis, who has a penchant for rewriting history in his favour has never even as much as hinted at such a thing.
Nonsense.
Nonsense.
coluka
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Are you being deliberately as obtuse as you are sarcastic? I have never said or implied Gibson sold him behind his back. I am saying Gibson was the man that agreed to accept Leeds offer and sell Bamford. Pulis was an employee not running the club he was answerable to Gibson not the other way round.
As a manager (non football) myself I had responsibilities. Sometimes those extended to doing as I was told rather than making the decision myself. Sometimes decisions are taken by others higher up the command but delivered by their managers. That happens at every large organisation not just football clubs. Mr Gibson is perfectly entitled to run his business how he sees fit and rightly so. As a customer I am entitled to have my view. The club is very cloak and dagger like many others, people speculate, sometimes rightly, sometimes wrongly.
You appear to me to have an old fashioned view on responsibility and assumption of where it lays within structured organisations. Apologies if I am wrong, I just go by what you post. The person responsible is not always responsible for his or her decisions when a person with greater command tells you what they wants you to do or what they want to happen. I have managed in different organisations and never once was I or other managers allowed to have full responsibility for everything in our day to day responsibilities, others meddle because they can, thats life. He who pays the piper calls the tune as they say.
If you think its nonsense thats fine. I have never suggested Pulis was not happy doing all he did or was not involved with carrying out the duties he was employed to do. Your problem is one of interpretation of my comments and thoughts of what his role involved. Your own view is differing view to mine, big deal. I give credit where i think it's due and criticism where i think appropriate, sometimes I am right sometimes I aren’t. I remember you criticising my comments on transfers about ‘the gifts’ it must have hurt when Stewy said it became clear karanka never wanted him or words to that effect on Radio.
indeedido
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Selling Christie and getting money back was a good deal; Forshaw for the fee was also good too.
I was happy with both sales, but all I was saying was that pulis was happy to sell from day 1 in order to earn his cut.
I can't obviously comment on the snippets you have been told and I also have absolutely no reason to dispute it.
We share a balanced view on Gibson. On this occasion I just interpret his actions differently given the evidence of signing Saville.
It may well be you do know more about it than me.
coluka
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Oh, I see what you mean re Pulis and his cut, sorry was perhaps being a bit dim on that point
I wasn’t meaning to suggest I was absolutely in the know here, I’m not saying that, my snippets are not from the horses mouth and clearly therefore can’t be guaranteed to be accurate, it is my take on matters.
wilkos_perm
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Not really. We've had to put up with being dreadful up front because the club sold our only quality forward and signed average players like Flint, and Saville. It's a very valid talking point given that the player we sold is currently delivering in the top flight.