DrummerMan
Well-known member
I quote "Even the CEO of Pfizer has said the vaccines don't work" - that's what I heard with my own ears while I was sat in the chair
Have you gone off someone you once respected during the last two years?
- Thread starter DrummerMan
- Start date
wilkos_perm
Well-known member
That would still be questioning how good these vaccines are though wouldn't it rather than necessary being anti-vax? Did they say they haven't had it?
Warwickboro
Well-known member
I'm sure they will be. Theres a lot of covid measures that I think don't make the blindest bit of difference to infection rates with omicron(i don't mean vaccines i might add) but I still follow them, they make others feel better, things like one way systems round supermarkets etc, I still do them.
Blf
Well-known member
DrummerMan
Well-known member
I believe she haven't - she was talking to her assistant throughout my treatment about the new covid pass the NHS are bringing in and how it's like "Nazi Germany" - again another quote
gregorgregorovich
Well-known member
Yeah, me too.
gregorgregorovich
Well-known member
It's if she refused to give me injections that I'd start to worry.
Warwickboro
Well-known member
I think this 2 years has changed a lot of people, their mental health has suffered a great deal, I'm coming to terms with a mini mental health crisis of my own, (well I think I am but I've never had this before) .I had a very silly argument with a friend of 25 years over WhatsApp tonight over bloody energy prices, I have deleted and blocked him without even thinking about how crazy that is, I do not remember his number! This os not rational behaviour and is so out of character for me, I've been so bitter these last few weeks over life in general, and then I go and do something so irrational and petty like that! I consider myself of decent intelligence, but I guess 2 years of this insane world, and angry cynical politics is enough to make people think and do irrational things, including the dentist in question, I've had an epiphany tonight, I'm not quite myself at the moment and perhaps she isn't either, how a dentist can deny a vaccine is beyond me, but then how can a man my age act like such a kid!
Norman_Conquest
Well-known member
Novak Djokovic is the person who's gone down in my estimation, he's just putting two fingers up regarding Covid and the measures that he will follow. Testing positive and breaking the rules is a big no for me and if he is to be believed, that is what he did.
It is a pity really, he's a great athlete who will be remembered for all the wrong things.
It is a pity really, he's a great athlete who will be remembered for all the wrong things.
Warwickboro
Well-known member
Yeah he's come off very badly here. I think he lied about having covid (I don't think he had it) and his lies caught up with him. He realised after he'd made up having covid that he'd been in an interview and just though "oh ****, I've gotta go with this now"
DrummerMan
Well-known member
I can relate to a lot of what you are saying.... I believe you are right when you mentioned mental health, I think that's going to be a massive issue when all of this is 'over'
jonny_greenings_sock
Well-known member
100% agree mate, don’t beat yourself up about it.
The uncertainty and the isolation and the worry of it all is just scarring for every one of us, isn’t it? It’s unprecedented, we’ve never lived through anything like this before and even three months of it would have been jarring - 2+ years is a hell of a long time and not what any of us expected.
It’s unnatural for humans to socially isolate themselves for so long and to deal with this level of uncertainty. I mean, watching Netflix and learning how to do Zoom meetings isn’t going to war; but there’s going to be a level of generational trauma to a greater or lesser extent that affects us all. I think there will be some really interesting studies written about it in ten years.
I know for me, I’ve definitely gone a bit odd during the pandemic and the same with everyone I know - when catching up with friends and family I have to keep reminding myself that we’ve all had a time of it, and we’re all a bit damaged by it in different ways, and to keep giving people the benefit of the doubt about it. It’s not easy though, we’ve all developed bad mental health habits and it’s weird re-learning your social skills!
On the OP’s point, I have lost a bit of respect for some people, yeah. I think we’ve all been online a bit too much because of the isolation and there’s so many rabbit holes. My most fervent anti-vaxxer friends are all yoga / cacao ceremony / vegan types, very health conscious types, and it’s depressing how far they’ve gone into something that I think is, well, ridiculous really. I try and look past it because there’s still a person underneath who I really like, but have definitely lost respect for them.
I wouldn’t hold any truck with anyone involved in medicine or health - including your dentist - who not only thinks that ****, but talks about it during a health care checkup, absolutely unbelievable and frankly dangerous and so irresponsible.
If you’re a yoga teacher and off with the fairies you can believe what you want, but if you’re a health professional and you don’t believe in science, you’re so in the wrong job.
FabioPorkpie
Well-known member
How do you mean? Any hospital data you care to look at across the world says the complete opposite.
Result of covid, why do you think it is?
That makes no sense.
Yes. They don’t give a toss. They are selfish *****. Generally youngish, selfish *****. The majority probably already had it anyway.
Oh, it only infects the wicked, does it? I’ll tell my 93 yr old Grandma who currently has it, that you said she has no self respect or integrity. She’ll probably say ‘Is he one of of those F***ing mental antivax conspiracy-theorist, thick as pigshit morons that everybody is laughing at, because they’ve been conned by a load of snake oil salesmen? The ones that are prolonging the pandemic and restrictions with their stupidity?’
’Yes’ I will reply.
Ahem…
Sometimes the herd is right…. you do know that, don’t you?
Guess not.
Scrote
Well-known member
If it's record numbers then there'll be a record OF those numbers. I assume you can post a link or something..?
WoodallServices
Well-known member
Aye, all these terrible vaccines, I preferred the days when we all limped along to the match coughing up blood whilst we did so!
r00fie1
Well-known member
......with rickets, whooping cough, tubular cullosis, diptheria, pneumonia, influenza and....Aye, all these terrible vaccines, I preferred the days when we all limped along to the match coughing up blood whilst we did so!
I wear my NBC suit to the shops!
I dont need a vaxine - just puritabs in me toss pot.
Could never understand why we cant smoke 200 a day indoors and on trains.
Never killed anyone - no one ever came back and told me anyway!
And silly clunk-click-every-trip!
Taking away my freedom to hurt myself and others when speeding!
And theres another thing: its my car!
Why do I need to be told how fast to go?!
Taking away my freedom!
Its the odd rice crispy in my cornflakes.....next itl be a frosty in my sugar puffs!
You wait and see.
What with "reduced sugar" chocolate and gluton-free bread!
Its taking away our rights to be over-weight and have health problems!
Political correctness gone mad.
Dont start me on Brexit and racism.......
Im not saying Im paranoid - but they`re all out to get me!!!!
[Er hem - Tongue-in-cheek before anyone takes it seriously]
Surely there can be no one out there who really rants on like that?
Last edited:
Lefty
Well-known member
Yeah, but he got his comeuppance when his family got a visit from Nigel Farage.
weemoby
Well-known member
Aphex, do you have a twin?
He more or less did say that. Not in so many words. What he said was that the vaccines alone won't stop the pandemic. At the time he was about to release onto the market his new drug for Covid, and data was being published that showed the Covid-19 vaccines behaved much like prior attempts at Corona virus vaccines - i.e. they didn't provide long term immunity.
Pfizer has a checkered past. This link shows the violations and fines paid by the Pfizer company and it's subsidiaries.
pfizer | Violation Tracker
Violation Tracker, produced by the Corporate Research Project of Good Jobs First, is a wide-ranging database on misconduct by large and small corporations throughout the United States.
violationtracker.goodjobsfirst.org
Bear in mind that the violations listed are mostly for drug products. In the USA and elsewhere, Pfizer has no liability for the current Covid-19 vaccines under Emergency Use Authorization. If they were approved they'd become liable. (Hence the sleight of hand with BioNTech Cominarty recently). But in the USA if they get approved for use with children they are absolved of liability even when approved. Funny old business vaccines.