heating you can't use
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Bristolboro
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aided by the Tory press.
BiggEggo
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A country run by Tories for the benefit of their own mega rich mates.
Saddest thing is that so many people have been bent over, with promises of levelling up (lies), brexit benefits (more lies) and good jobs/high employment ( total B.S.) that's before you consider their promises of lower tax, higher living standards and lower fuel and food costs. Going well for them isn't it.
There are lot of folk just waking up to the fact that they are not wealthy enough to benefit from voting Tory. They now realise they were just cannon fodder. Idiots of the highest order.
Glover_elbow
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listening on the radio today to disable carers and disabled callers who are shortening there own life's or those of their loved ones including their own children because they cant get the financial support to help with fuel poverty, its utterly heart breaking. Imagine having to turn off the heating knowing it will put the health of your disabled child in serious jeopardy. The government have seriously misjudged this one, I think rishi is done as a politician after this, the lack of support is absolutely scandalous and dare i say as bad as policy of thatcher governments.
They would end up running at a loss. the margins for a Supplier are only 5% apparently (Assuming they don't also generate the Electricity).
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Same_as_before
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You are missing the point, I am taxing the inflation on the house.
Use me as an example; we bought a house for £100,000 and then sold it a decade later for £225,000. In my view the profit of £125,000 should be taxed at 40%.
JM14
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But then it would make it almost impossible to move up the ladder to a better house. Not sure I can agree with that, a house is the biggest investment most of us will ever make, taking away profit from this will make it even harder for working classes to ever progress. I could make an argument for it if it was property that was worth millions perhaps, but not for around the average price of property
Same_as_before
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Why should inflation be tax free? We do nothing for it. You are still giving your middle to old age siblings a fortune. Why should they have an advantage over a couple who could not get on the ladder and had to rent?
JM14
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Perhaps property ownership could be more accessible if wages kept up with property prices, look at the government for that
If you were to sell your 200k house but loose 40% of the profit then how can anyone ever move apart from the super rich? It would mean the first property you bought would be the one you stay in for life. Making it harder for working class people to climb the ladder isn’t progressive
Same_as_before
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It's the opposite, it would bring house inflation down.
There is an argument that houses like utilities, transport should be nationalised. But that's for another day. Base the value of the house on land bricks and mortar.
There is an argument that houses like utilities, transport should be nationalised. But that's for another day. Base the value of the house on land bricks and mortar.
Glover_elbow
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That's not the answer surely it's the wrong way round. House price rises have been ridiculous boosting wages to keep up would just inflate the housing market further.
Randy
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There's deffo and energy company somewhere missing a trick with this like. But then I suppose they are all ran by money grabbing tossers who give no crap about anyone other than themselves and their shareholders.
Bristolboro
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surely basic amenities, like basic foodstuffs, energy, transport and healthcare should be prioritized and subsidized in a civilized society. You can't just limit access to the fundamentals by hiking prices right up. It's immoral, disgusting.
I'm not saying it's right. But it is 100% what would happen.
If you want the rich to stop getting richer, stop giving them your money.
Chris_Boro
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So you think because the CEO of say Tesco or Shell get a huge bonus, taxing that bonus more means the price of veg or energy goes up to cover it?
We are not in a cost of living crisis, we are in a cost of greed crisis and that's what needs to stop.
ThatFragranceGuy
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How would it? they have done that because of sanctions. Unless you are going to put other countries assets in their own nation that are producing the natural gas, what and how do you propose taking ownership of, under what pretext and how would it keep prices down? They've seized that subsidiary because of sanctions, not to start making money out of it. We import more gas than we use. Even if our government took ownership of every bit of UK gas somehow, it wouldn't be enough to supply the nation. And it would run out very, very soon.
No one is missing a trick, they would have to be an absolute f**cking moron to do that. Look at the price cap, look at what a fixed rate contract is at which price cap doesn't apply to, there's about a £2,000-£3,000 difference in price. They're losing money on variable deals because they cant charge more than the price cap. It is costing them more to but the fuel than they can legally sell it to us. If someone said "hey, we're going to charge less than the price cap by £200" then they'd be haemorrhaging money because there would be the existing losses plus that amount. Would be a bit like you saying lets get some people in by paying them £60 to have a meal. You'd get customers and be rammed but you would be bankrupt because you've still got operational costs, staff to pay and you'd need to be paying your suppliers, who are putting their prices up. But those customers can now have 3 meals a week at your place. Are you missing a trick by not doing that deal? course you aren't. You want customers, but you aren't going to put yourself out of business to get them.
