How do we feel about London and the South East?

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go-nads!

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Currently in Tier Two, rates amongst the highest and that data is out of date. So even if they are placed in Tier 3 the rates will still be rising.

So then we have a high infection rate community, that will soon be free to travel up and down the country as many of them return to family homes.

Looks like an absolute recipe for disaster especially when we have the mayor pleading that any increased measures will affect the capitals hospitality industry.

A further excuse is London has the Nightingale and increased hospital capacity to deal with extra demand - no consideration to other parts of the country should infected people be allowed to return “home”.

Third wave super spread on it’s way ☹️
 
I think we (I live here in London) will move to tier three. Can only hope the impact of the relaxation of rules at Christmas doesn’t undo the work so far. My behaviour is the same whether I’m in one , two or three, I rarely go out, just for exercise, I don’t mix with other people and so on. Hopefully there are enough sensible people around!

I thought the nightingale had been closed due to being under Used?
 
There’s a massive difference here in the South East. Some areas of Kent have the highest rates in the country but an hour drive away in Sussex we have some of the lowest. There’s talk of Lewes and Worthing coming down to tier one. My son lives in a tier 3 area but my girlfriend will probably be in tier 1 soon, that’s how stupid it is. I can legally pick my son up from a tier 3 area and bring him to stay in a tier 1 area with me.
 
I live near the centre of London and the case numbers have risen a bit but that's after a drop. We are still lower than the national average and lower than when we went into lockdown. It's NE London, Essex and Kent where the problems are. And the information coming out today is that the increases are among 11-18 year-olds and that among adults the figures are pretty flat. Pretty much the only real difference between tiers 2 and 3 are that pubs and restaurants have to close in tier 3. In tier 2 you can only go in pubs and restaurants with members of your own household anyway so I'm not sure how going into tier 3 will have an effect on cases among teenagers.
 
I think the country should be under the same rules everywhere.

We are too small to have Covid zones.

The current London anomaly makes no sense whatsoever and it’s done to save jobs in London as if it doesn’t matter about jobs elsewhere.

More poor and inconsistent government I’m afraid.
 
I also think we ( I live in Kent) will STAY in Tier 3

London will stay Tier 2

East Sussex will stay Tier 2

West Sussex will go to Tier 1

Surrey will stay Tier 2

Essex will stay Tier 2
 
How come London and Home Counties get mass testing of school students? Rates in the north were huge and not once did we get such an offer. Our students and teachers were sent back on mass for the good of the country but we created Petri dishes for infection with schools getting 5 test kits for 1300 students and 80 staff.
 
Duffman said:
How come London and Home Counties get mass testing of school students? Rates in the north were huge and not once did we get such an offer. Our students and teachers were sent back on mass for the good of the country but we created Petri dishes for infection with schools getting 5 test kits for 1300 students and 80 staff.
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Couldn't agree more with this
 
Duffman said:
How come London and Home Counties get mass testing of school students? Rates in the north were huge and not once did we get such an offer. Our students and teachers were sent back on mass for the good of the country but we created Petri dishes for infection with schools getting 5 test kits for 1300 students and 80 staff.
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Yup, I work in one such school - we had hundreds and hundreds (over 800) kids off at one point self isolating or tested postive with 30 staff off also self isolating or positive. No help at all when it was the NE but as soon as it threatens London and the Home Counties money and resources are found.

Same old same old, yet people vote them back in.
 
To paraphrase Susie Blake in Victoria Wood’s tv programme,

“we would like to apologise to people living in London...........it must be TERRIBLE for them....”
 
Duffman said:
How come London and Home Counties get mass testing of school students? Rates in the north were huge and not once did we get such an offer. Our students and teachers were sent back on mass for the good of the country but we created Petri dishes for infection with schools getting 5 test kits for 1300 students and 80 staff.
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Almost as if the centralised nature of this country only really gives a **** about the capital and the smug, conceited creeps that live there.
 
Always been the way-
When Cameron was PM and Oxfordshire was flooded he said money was no problem. But northern areas are still waiting for help 10 years after
 
There is def a sense of one rule for one emerging and you’d hate for it to be true but the evidence is hard to ignore.

The growing resentment in the north is def building.
 
Where I live we`ve practically been on lock-down since March for all but about four weeks.
Its even worse in Leicester......like they`ve had to rebuild the Roman City walls and pull up the draw bridge.
Its not bluudy funny.
 
Guys, it isnt just the North. I am in the West country and things arent too good down here. Cornwall is one of the poorest areas of the country and Devon isnt far behind apart from all of the holiday homes bought by Londoners. We have no talk of northern powerhouses and even less investment in our infrastructure. London and the South East are very different to everyone in the South.
 
Smog in Wilts said:
Guys, it isnt just the North. I am in the West country and things arent too good down here. Cornwall is one of the poorest areas of the country and Devon isnt far behind apart from all of the holiday homes bought by Londoners. We have no talk of northern powerhouses and even less investment in our infrastructure. London and the South East are very different to everyone in the South.
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Always find it concerning that the north seems to be synonymous with poverty in Britain yet Cornwall and Devon, like you say, are quite poor, and rarely seem to get any attention when there's talks about addressing societal hardships endured by various communities in England.
No high speed rail network to drag the Falmouthese and Truronians out of the their homes and to the capital. That might be for the best though.
 
Smog in Wilts said:
Guys, it isnt just the North. I am in the West country and things arent too good down here. Cornwall is one of the poorest areas of the country and Devon isnt far behind apart from all of the holiday homes bought by Londoners. We have no talk of northern powerhouses and even less investment in our infrastructure. London and the South East are very different to everyone in the South.
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Send Poldark back to Westminster with your concerns! He will sort it.
 
If you live away from the communter belt for London - you will always be a bit forgotten - parts of Kent had and have poverty - look at Dover, Gillingham, Chatham, Northfleet and in the past Folkstone and Margate and Ramsgate, but people tend to think of Tunbridge Wells when Kent in mentioned and see it as a middle class county. When I lived in Hastings in the late 1980s I would say it was poorer than most of Teesside. An average house price was around £55k opposed to say £40k on Teesside at the same time and wages were lower in Hastings. Charing Cross was nearly 2 hours on train each way and thus not commutable every day. Hastings was stuck in a bit of time warp and had lost most of its tourist jobs. It had more in common with Scarborough than say Tunbridge Wells both on the A23 and same trainline, but TW was only 45 minutes from London and a different world.
 
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