Inside the Force 24/7.
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DonTheKing
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Aye one of the few people I know on teesside, she did lose her job .
DonTheKing
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What do you mean? Some people have loved on "these estates" for 70 years maybe more, I don't live in the area and only did for 5 years of my life, but them estates have some of the best people on this earth.(including my 100 year old nan)
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r00fie1
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Is there anything about how government cut backs and reducing staff has affected effective policing?
Has anyone in the programme looked at how real policemen in the community can have a positive impact on policing and building positive relationships with communities?
I could make you a programme about how "dangerous" it can be working as a nurse in A&E or in Secure Mental Health Units - and get sympathy. But the cause of the majority of the problems in the public sector start with central government, specifically the Treasury
TeessideCleveland
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Woman who seems to tour police cells
'Have you seen the cells in Harrogate? They're absolutely lovely'
Custody Sergeant 'That's because they only get about 3 crimes a year there'
'Have you seen the cells in Harrogate? They're absolutely lovely'
Custody Sergeant 'That's because they only get about 3 crimes a year there'
ThatFragranceGuy
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Our old estate in central Stockton was hell, we had front and rear gardens but were one of only 2 streets that did amongst old terrace houses. We had a parking bay too with grass in front of it with each part of the grass owned by the house that owned the bay in front of it, but our house was at the end next to the grass.
People actually came to it for picnics on sunny days, you'd be in your garden chilling out and you'd have mams clinking lambrini glasses while 29 kids play on it, very surreal. constant kids playing on it, balls kicked against the house, was a nightmare. You sound like a killjoy but every ball booted against the house would shake the wall loudly, and it was only about 2 car lengths wide so would then bounce back and hit your car over and over and your doorbell going every 5 minutes asking for the ball back as it's in the garden.
Street was 80% lovely people who cared about their houses and gardens, but a couple of absentee landlords would let out to anyone who would pay so there would always be a drug den or a brothel in the go, months of work to get them out and they rent a house 3 streets away and start again then another one moves in the vacant house. We always had morning raids, you just got used to it.
People bang on about asylum seekers and immigrants but any of those were no problems at all in the area, kept to themselves and worst you might get is then rummaging through bins or charity bags left out because they had nothing.
Meanwhile we had constant ASB, burglaries, drugs, theft etc from all the local white bagheads and tearaway kids. Most of the people we spoke to were pretty much trapped in the estate - they owned and too old for moving now and property values are depressed. I bought for 80k and sold for 60 after 11 years. Very few people go for those sort of homes now purely because you don't want your kids to be growing up around that sort of life if you can help it. We saw it happen while we were there, young kids that started off playing in the street then about 5 years old they're already calling people c*nts or telling you to F off, throwing stones at cars or houses. I was in my garden shed day and heard of noise, 3 lads about 8-10 year old jumped into my garden. I shouted at them asking what they were doing and they near shat themselves and I let them out, crying as they went.
Actually had 2 dads come see me for upsetting their kids - wouldn't believe me they were trespassing in my garden and about to do who knows what.
Had our virgin cable cut through by a girl about 5 year old. Just daft stuff that makes every day life a ball ache
Miss the people we lived by, hated the experience of living there, and as I said that was a nice street largely mortgaged with gardens, will be far worse round there. I don't think it's the same as it was for many growing up in these estates hence people get a hit defensive, there was much more community back then and kids feared parents, neighbours and police. Now they know they can get away with anything
People actually came to it for picnics on sunny days, you'd be in your garden chilling out and you'd have mams clinking lambrini glasses while 29 kids play on it, very surreal. constant kids playing on it, balls kicked against the house, was a nightmare. You sound like a killjoy but every ball booted against the house would shake the wall loudly, and it was only about 2 car lengths wide so would then bounce back and hit your car over and over and your doorbell going every 5 minutes asking for the ball back as it's in the garden.
Street was 80% lovely people who cared about their houses and gardens, but a couple of absentee landlords would let out to anyone who would pay so there would always be a drug den or a brothel in the go, months of work to get them out and they rent a house 3 streets away and start again then another one moves in the vacant house. We always had morning raids, you just got used to it.
People bang on about asylum seekers and immigrants but any of those were no problems at all in the area, kept to themselves and worst you might get is then rummaging through bins or charity bags left out because they had nothing.
Meanwhile we had constant ASB, burglaries, drugs, theft etc from all the local white bagheads and tearaway kids. Most of the people we spoke to were pretty much trapped in the estate - they owned and too old for moving now and property values are depressed. I bought for 80k and sold for 60 after 11 years. Very few people go for those sort of homes now purely because you don't want your kids to be growing up around that sort of life if you can help it. We saw it happen while we were there, young kids that started off playing in the street then about 5 years old they're already calling people c*nts or telling you to F off, throwing stones at cars or houses. I was in my garden shed day and heard of noise, 3 lads about 8-10 year old jumped into my garden. I shouted at them asking what they were doing and they near shat themselves and I let them out, crying as they went.
Actually had 2 dads come see me for upsetting their kids - wouldn't believe me they were trespassing in my garden and about to do who knows what.
Had our virgin cable cut through by a girl about 5 year old. Just daft stuff that makes every day life a ball ache
Miss the people we lived by, hated the experience of living there, and as I said that was a nice street largely mortgaged with gardens, will be far worse round there. I don't think it's the same as it was for many growing up in these estates hence people get a hit defensive, there was much more community back then and kids feared parents, neighbours and police. Now they know they can get away with anything
r00fie1
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If people with "Mental Health Issues" are "feral animals", you are very ignorant and insulting to millions of people.
Perhaps a good long hard look in the mirror is appropriate!
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She did indeed...and rightly so.
dorivasmiddlefinger
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what was it she did?
Glover_elbow
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2nd and 3rd generation born with very little chance in life. As bad as these people may seem nobody chooses to live like this. To me this is the long lasting consequence of thatcherism you cut all hope and opportunities in life and then people will behave like this.
Colgates_shaving_foam
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Exactly, these people do not choose to be/live like this, they are a symptom of a broken system.
What I think needs to happen is first of all raise benefits to give the unemployable (and I don't think we should kid ourselves that there aren't lots of unemployable people out there) a respectable standard of living whilst at the same time investing money into education so that the young people living there now have a chance to break the cycle.
Problem is it would take 20 years or so to show results and so will not happen under the current system of 5 year cycles and under the current far right dominated press that we are living with.
You could raise their benefits and the majority would behave just the same.It’s easier for them to live like this than have to make the effort that most others have to make to hold down jobs,pay mortgages etc.
I have relatives who have never worked a day since they left school 20 yrs ago,they have no intention of ever working and when ever they are offered employment they either become pregnant or their new excuse is they have anxiety.
My response may be harsh but when you witness first hand such attitudes it’s hard not to be cynical.
NYboro
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Of course there are some, but they are a very small minority.
MichaelDebeve
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I’ve mostly been watching the new episodes of Bluey 
r00fie1
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40 + years of austerity,
closing drop in centres,
sure start,
youth clubs,
community centres,
sports facilities,
neglecting social housing,
increased homelessness,
reduced access to further and higher education,
removing financial support for those in further and higher education,
leaving those with moderate to severe mental illnesses to fend for themselves with little or no support,
offenders being released with no support in the community or pathways to jobs or further education,
reduction in services provided by the probation services,
social workers focused mainly on the elderly and child protection with little room for adult support, child support services cut,
especially CAMHS,
over three million children in poverty,
a massive reduction in real incomes and quality of life for millions,
reduction of in-patient beds,
deliberate dismantling of the NHS,
pricing people out of basic health care such as dentistry and opticial services by introducing prices,
prescriptions charging denying those in most need, unable to afford proper health care,
a shortage of community mid-wives and community support workers,
thousands of unfilled vacancies for community carers for the elderly and disabled - many created by restrictions on movement and employment by BREXIT.
.........leads to what we see today.
closing drop in centres,
sure start,
youth clubs,
community centres,
sports facilities,
neglecting social housing,
increased homelessness,
reduced access to further and higher education,
removing financial support for those in further and higher education,
leaving those with moderate to severe mental illnesses to fend for themselves with little or no support,
offenders being released with no support in the community or pathways to jobs or further education,
reduction in services provided by the probation services,
social workers focused mainly on the elderly and child protection with little room for adult support, child support services cut,
especially CAMHS,
over three million children in poverty,
a massive reduction in real incomes and quality of life for millions,
reduction of in-patient beds,
deliberate dismantling of the NHS,
pricing people out of basic health care such as dentistry and opticial services by introducing prices,
prescriptions charging denying those in most need, unable to afford proper health care,
a shortage of community mid-wives and community support workers,
thousands of unfilled vacancies for community carers for the elderly and disabled - many created by restrictions on movement and employment by BREXIT.
.........leads to what we see today.
MichaelDebeve
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…. One of the new episodes you think they are going to sell the house and move away (spoiler alert!) ….. Bandit stops the sale!
TeessideCleveland
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That does not lead to the behaviour of some of these people
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sadgit
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Like the lovely lads in Stewart park again, doing 30mph going between dog walkers, kids, prams, maps, etc. with zero care. They would be ar5eh0l3s whatever
Loop
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Raising benefits wouldn't solve anything IMO. If anything it'd probably stop those who do work that are only just surviving stopping work to be better off for not working. As sad as it is, some people embrace getting something for nothing.
There are plenty that come from such backgrounds that have managed to break the cycle & good on them.