Josh Coburn Update at Press Conference

No. I don't read it that way. It isn't a case of Matty Crooks playing on needing a hernia op. Coburn has already had a procedure. Following this he is experiencing soreness is what I was told this week. Carrick says he has good days and bad days.
Well v Sunderland he must have been having a bad day. Coburn was lumbering around like an old man, perfectly obvious to anyone with eyes that he was nowhere near his usual self and should not have been on the park.
It's a shame, as he looked a right handful earlier in the season, stronger and a touch quicker than previously.
 
Today—from Michael Carrick's Media Conference v Bristol City:

Josh Coburn situation. Still needing to be `managed`?
Yeah, he is a little bit. Obviously, he had the operation, treatment, before Christmas, to kind of see him through it. [We've] just been managing that, which we feel we've done alright. He has good days and bad days….days when he struggles a little bit, but it's part of us managing it really, game to game, week to week.

What was the operation?
It was just a procedural one on his groin.

Will Josh require a `longer term fix` and is Carrick just `basically trying to put that as far down the road` as possible, because he needs him in the squad?
Not necessarily no. Not necessarily at all. No. It's just managing it. Our boys have at some times or some point in the season……… It's just part of managing it. We're trying to make the best of it and get him through so he's getting better.
 
They had a striker but were blown out of the water by a quite massive bid.
MC Today:

Striker situation? Kieron Scott mentioned `free agents¬ this week. Any news?

Yeah. There's always conversations, there's no decision made on anything [right now]. There's always a lot of things come into it. Our eyes are always open. If there's an opportunity, and we think it will improve us, it'll help us or make us better, we will always look at it, and we'll always take it [decision]. It doesn’t change today what the plan was before. Its ongoing. Sometimes things pop up you don’t expect and we'll act upon it.

 
Coburn was lumbering around like an old man, perfectly obvious to anyone with eyes that he was nowhere near his usual self and should not have been on the park.
It was actually painful to watch on Sunday wasn’t it as he looked a shadow of the player we all know he is, and it is clearly a risk playing a clearly injured player.

There was one moment just after he came on when they passed the ball across the back and coburn almost looked up as if to say do I risk it as he burst into a short sprint.

I only hope we don’t regret this approach.

I won’t even comment on our dearth of strikers whilst selling two of them as it’s just insanity to me. But nothing is going to change till the summer so we’re stuck with it.
 
This is making the decision to not bring anyone in even more baffling - they know Josh isn’t fit and should not be considered for first team duties, and they also know Lath has quite a serious injury that needs a lengthy recovery period. Greenwood is not a goalscoring centre forward, Forss is potentially a very good centre forward but he is seen as the right sided player of the front four - yep it does kind of feel as if they’ve said we’ll see if we can muddle along with what we have an hope for the best.
it's not that baffling now Mcgree is back and Silvera is also back
it also sounded like LL is nearly ready
 
it's not that baffling now Mcgree is back and Silvera is also back
it also sounded like LL is nearly ready

He said he's a few weeks away last Friday.
So he'll be missing 2-3 more matches even if you use the lower definition of a few.

He's now back in "the not-too-distant future" from today's press conference.

We could be down for the count by the time he's back.

Could also be right in the mix too, of course.
 
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Not sure how up to date this is - any free agents of interest

 
Also known as the "a few blokes on a message board who think they know better than a professional recruitment team" thread
Yes to be fair the same people though pulis and monk were good enough to manage us and sanctioned selling bamford to Leeds.

So not infallible then
 
it's not that baffling now Mcgree is back and Silvera is also back
it also sounded like LL is nearly ready
Seems people have forgotten we aint chucking good money after bad on over-hyped, over-paid players any more.
We're running a steady ship.
Rogers wanted to go to Villa, and we made £7M profit in 6 months [if reported figures are accurate].
Crooks has his family and career as priority. He's 30 and has more than just himself to worry about.
Carrick has said for the last three months, we won't recruit players as a stop-gap because we are stuck with them. With a fully fit squad, we have ample options.
We cant have our cake and eat it.
We must have some appeal - with the average home attendance being the 6th highest in the Championship!
4 of those teams above us are in the top four positions!!!!!!
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It was actually painful to watch on Sunday wasn’t it as he looked a shadow of the player we all know he is, and it is clearly a risk playing a clearly injured player.

There was one moment just after he came on when they passed the ball across the back and coburn almost looked up as if to say do I risk it as he burst into a short sprint.

I only hope we don’t regret this approach.

I won’t even comment on our dearth of strikers whilst selling two of them as it’s just insanity to me. But nothing is going to change till the summer so we’re stuck with it.
I was disappointed in Carrick with the Colburn substitution. If he is injured why not bring Dijksteel on and put Silvera as striker. The pace would not have been impacted and Dijksteel would have been a good protection for a booked Ayling.
 
They had a striker but were blown out of the water by a quite massive bid.
We've heard that before, but fair play for sticking to our guns. There were players out there though, and we didn't really seem linked with anyone. I don't know if we were actually in for him, but Kiefer Moore would have been perfect to play the role Coburn played earlier in the season.
 
It sounds like he is having post procedural discomfort - it might be they feel this will be best served with activity rather than rest.

Injuries in real life are not the same as on a computer game - it is not as straight forward as 'This is the problem, This is the time out, when you are fit will be clearly defined by a change in symbol over your head'

We shall see. It might be he is just playing himself back to full fitness after a procedure a month ago and it will take a few weeks to get there
 
No. I don't read it that way. It isn't a case of Matty Crooks playing on needing a hernia op. Coburn has already had a procedure. Following this he is experiencing soreness is what I was told this week. Carrick says he has good days and bad days.
Coburn isn’t a 70 year old after a hip op who has good days and bad days. Hes a pro who has the best health care available to anyone. He’s playing because we are desperate. Just amateur on every level.
 
I would be very surprised if we are playing Coburn if there is any risk to himself and injuring himself more. Carrick has said earlier in the season (I can't remember who about) that he wouldn't do that. He is obviously is rusty and not quite up to match fitness. As above, it's not like on FM when you have a fitness marker on your head, they have to make a decision based on what they see in training and what the player himself is saying.
 
I would be very surprised if we are playing Coburn if there is any risk to himself and injuring himself more. Carrick has said earlier in the season (I can't remember who about) that he wouldn't do that. He is obviously is rusty and not quite up to match fitness. As above, it's not like on FM when you have a fitness marker on your head, they have to make a decision based on what they see in training and what the player himself is saying.

We've had multiple players suffer through hernias in recent years.

Crooks spent half of a season with a hernia, and got slaughtered for his performances during it.
 
We've had multiple players suffer through hernias in recent years.

Crooks spent half of a season with a hernia, and got slaughtered for his performances during it.
I'm sure but that isn't necessarily putting the player at more risk. It will depend on the individual circumstance of the injury.
 
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