The lying scumbag should be in jail
Poor match so far reallyThat probably rises to the level of purjury though I haven't watched it yet. Watching Everton v Newcastle so will watch this later.
It's woeful as far as finishing goes.Poor match so far really
Wonder if Grimsby would do any better..It's woeful as far as finishing goes.
I feel a little bit sorry for him.The lying scumbag should be in jail
He is directly responsible for 10's of thousands of deaths. You might want to save your sympathy for those whose lives were cut short.I feel a little bit sorry for him.
I've been in meetings in which people have said things that in the context of meeting are fine in establishing the red lines of the discussion but if you stripped them of context and had a KC read them back to you in a legal scenario you wouldn't be painted in a very good light.
That being said, I don't think it should be the chair making those comments or arguing for an extreme course of action.
Indirectly surely? He wasn't Shipman style taking out the old & vulnerable, he was in meetings saying 'should we let it rip?' & ultimately the govt didn't let it rip, just too late for some.He is directly responsible for 10's of thousands of deaths. You might want to save your sympathy for those whose lives were cut short.
So consciously sending covid positive pensioners back to care homes is not a directly responsible?Indirectly surely? He wasn't Shipman style taking out the old & vulnerable, he was in meetings saying 'should we let it rip?' & ultimately the govt didn't let it rip, just too late for some.
He didn't just say it once though did he? He said it on several occasions, described Long COVID as "bolllocks" and opined that the high death rate in Wales was due to the "singing and obesity".Indirectly surely? He wasn't Shipman style taking out the old & vulnerable, he was in meetings saying 'should we let it rip?' & ultimately the govt didn't let it rip, just too late for some.
It is a tough decision, if they'd left well old people in hospital 'blocking beds' and there was no room for the critically ill who were dying in hospital car parks, we'd be having an inquiry questioning that decision.So consciously sending covid positive pensioners back to care homes is not a directly responsible?
He was the primary decision maker, to use your analogy if the **** hits the fan at a business because of bad decisions, who ultimately bares that direct responsibility? The owners! the people at the top because they are the ones making the big decisions.
He ignored advice, and is now claiming he was not aware or was just challenging the narrative when it is clear that is not the case. The man should be in prison.
I did say "meetings". It does appear as though he was spectacularly unsuited to the level of detail, analysis and clear thinking required to pick our way through Covid in the best possible way. That’s our political system though, we don’t pick our leader and even if we did, we don’t know what crisis they are going to be dealing with or how they’ll cope.He didn't just say it once though did he? He said it on several occasions, described Long COVID as "bolllocks" and opined that the high death rate in Wales was due to the "singing and obesity".
What a scumbag
No directly. His decisions caused deaths that otherwise would not have happened.Indirectly surely? He wasn't Shipman style taking out the old & vulnerable, he was in meetings saying 'should we let it rip?' & ultimately the govt didn't let it rip, just too late for some.
I don't think the decision had to be either/or. Why not use nightingale hospitals as temporary accommodation, as an example of an alternative.It is a tough decision, if they'd left well old people in hospital 'blocking beds' and there was no room for the critically ill who were dying in hospital car parks, we'd be having an inquiry questioning that decision.
They got it wrong & people died, the inquiry is to find out the reasons why and learn the lessons so it doesn't happen again.
I did say "meetings". It does appear as though he was spectacularly unsuited to the level of detail, analysis and clear thinking required to pick our way through Covid in the best possible way. That’s our political system though, we don’t pick our leader and even if we did, we don’t know what crisis they are going to be dealing with or how they’ll cope.
Just watched that clip @Trug and for me that doesn't rise to perjury. Of course it cuts off part way through the conversation. However perjury can't be prosecuted on heresay. The nca would need an email or message from johnson saying exactly those words, rather than someone documenting that he said those words.
Can't comment on that Sherlock as I didn't see the clip.He said words to that effect on national TV on This Morning
I hope this is satire!I like Boris. He’s just a loveable rogue.
In the case of Johnson we knew exactly what type of Prime Minister we were going to get, one incapable of dealing with detail, strategy and analysis, it was clearly in the public domain that he doesn't do that kind of thing, he was elected on the non-specific, notional broad sweep of choose your own Brexit and despite the chaos and calamity that was his legacy in every other role he'd previously had.It is a tough decision, if they'd left well old people in hospital 'blocking beds' and there was no room for the critically ill who were dying in hospital car parks, we'd be having an inquiry questioning that decision.
They got it wrong & people died, the inquiry is to find out the reasons why and learn the lessons so it doesn't happen again.
I did say "meetings". It does appear as though he was spectacularly unsuited to the level of detail, analysis and clear thinking required to pick our way through Covid in the best possible way. That’s our political system though, we don’t pick our leader and even if we did, we don’t know what crisis they are going to be dealing with or how they’ll cope.