Norman_Conquest
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What a load of bollox - I'm back off to bed. Talk to you later mate.
Manchester City’s victories are absolutely meaningless IMO
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Big_Nothing
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How is it bollox?What a load of bollox - I'm back off to bed. Talk to you later mate.
The only similarity is that at briefly in our history we spent more than 'most' others were willing to spend on a few players.
How that is comparable to nation states cleaning their money and reputations by absolutely blowing the nearest competition away, breaking and manipulating the rules, lying about it and destroying the nature of competition in doing so, I have no idea.
Big_Nothing
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But good night, middle of the morning here for me! Rest well fella.
Jedi boro
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NC has swalllowed the largely southern press bile at the time as it’s a myth we paid silly money for all our players in that era.
Arsenal offered Juninho more than us for a start but the fact Robbo went to Brazil personally to meet him and his family swayed the deal whilst Arsenal just sent a fax.
Arsenal offered Juninho more than us for a start but the fact Robbo went to Brazil personally to meet him and his family swayed the deal whilst Arsenal just sent a fax.
Nero
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For genuine Man City fans it must be strange at times looking at their club. Money from another country has totally transformed their club. It must at times feel a bit hollow.
To justify buying and paying the best players lots of creative accounting must have gone on. The football authorities don’t have the balls to do anything about it though.
To justify buying and paying the best players lots of creative accounting must have gone on. The football authorities don’t have the balls to do anything about it though.
Jedi boro
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I was there when we beat them in the cup under karanka and as you say the whole thing felt so shallow with their electronic flags to look like banners draped over the side. It was all so contrived.
Zoophonic
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Anti City sentiment galore! They have broken rules that were established relatively recently. A lot of the anti City sentiment is coming from Man U and Liverpool fans and now Arsenal bitterness. Yes City are corrupt in the sense that a State has funded their success but no different from a rich sugar daddy with Putin's money funding Chelsea before FFP. And the other "big" clubs got to where they are by outspending everybody else. Football is a very murky business and yes City are monsters but they are not alone.
Granville Bennett
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Noel Gallagher loves it. Ricky Hatton hates it.
Granville Bennett
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Welll that is an argument, if you think it just involves spending money. A pithy argument if you see the bigger picture.Ravenelli quoted us a silly amount in wages to play for us hoping it would put us off but 'Sheik Gibson' agreed to pay it. Walker did something similar to the Boro and paid attractive wages and high transfer fees for players to play for Blackburn.
Big_Nothing - It certainly wasn't sports washing or dirty money but it still gave us an advantage over our rivals. Not everyone had the money to throw about that Gibson did. I think I am also right in saying the FFP rules weren't introduced until 2011.
Gibson wasn't the first Boro chairman to throw silly money around. We once paid Sunderland £1,000 which shocked the footballing world and it was also discussed in the Houses of Commons.
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Anton_Berg
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I remember a LC match at (3rd tier) Brentford where their fans were collecting money in the (open air ) away end and a guy shaking his bucket saying 'it's alright for you , you've got a benefactor'. I think that was our cup-winning campaign.
atypical_boro
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We were never “Man City”. Newcastle, Liverpool, Arsenal, Blackburn and Man Utd were spending more than us, we were just spending more on wages than any other “small club”. Newcastle spent twice as much on Shearer as we did on Ravanelli the same summer. There were also no rules against it. We were Wolves not City, we were breaking no spending records whatsoever.
Gibson’s human rights record was always ok if I recall correctly. No stoning gay people.
Amazing how effective sports washing is, reading some of the comments on here from folk who still think it’s plucky little Man City winning stuff against all the odds. They’re about to win their 5th title in 6 seasons (by cheating), they’re Celtic, they’re Bayern Munich, they’re Juventus, they’re PSG, why would anyone want this kind of dominance in the PL? Even United/Liverpool never bettered 5 out of 6, but City probably will (by cheating).
I really hope one of the Milan clubs wins the CL.
Gibson’s human rights record was always ok if I recall correctly. No stoning gay people.
Amazing how effective sports washing is, reading some of the comments on here from folk who still think it’s plucky little Man City winning stuff against all the odds. They’re about to win their 5th title in 6 seasons (by cheating), they’re Celtic, they’re Bayern Munich, they’re Juventus, they’re PSG, why would anyone want this kind of dominance in the PL? Even United/Liverpool never bettered 5 out of 6, but City probably will (by cheating).
I really hope one of the Milan clubs wins the CL.
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Otto42
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They are doing nothing different to what Chelsea did under Abramovich, except the ridiculous Financial Fair Play rules have changed. Newcastle will do the same in the next few years. If you want a level playing field you need rules around ownership or salary caps, but these won’t happen due to the self interest of the rest of the European and EPL elite. Complaints from the other big clubs about Citeh are crocodile tears.
Nero
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That doesn’t surprise me. Going by his Twitter input Liam Gallagher loves it too.
I do understand both sides. If you’re a certain age and supported Man City while they were rubbish it must be fantastic seeing the best players play the football they do.
At the same time, what was a proper Manchester club has become a media darling with “fans” all over the world. It’s a club unrecognised.
The Card Cheat
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They've spent less in the last ten years than Man United. Which to some extent disproves the idea City are just buying titles
Glover_elbow
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I cant get my head around the amount of money being spent in the premier league in general. In times where there is so much poverty i just find the whole league grotesquely offensive. Do i really want boro to be part of that not really.
My hope is that man utd do get taken over by Qataris because it increases the chances of a breakaway super league. The best thing for English football would be the rest of the clubs call the bluff of the elite and tell them to b***r off to the super league. We could have a great new league with the best of the champ and most of the premier league playing to fairer spending limits.
My hope is that man utd do get taken over by Qataris because it increases the chances of a breakaway super league. The best thing for English football would be the rest of the clubs call the bluff of the elite and tell them to b***r off to the super league. We could have a great new league with the best of the champ and most of the premier league playing to fairer spending limits.
Borokian1876
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Small club? We’re at the very least a medium sized club. Small clubs are clubs like Brentford, not us.
I wouldn’t mind basking in a bit of trophy bought glory.
We had a go at this with Ravanelli, Juninho etc but now we can’t compete at that level.
The_Lizards_Jumpers
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Or you decided to make supporting them part of your public persona, like Oasis did, but it's often rumoured that you didn't actually go to that many games before you were famous. Now that football is trendy you can pin your colours to the Man City mast in a way of clinging on to your "working class hero" credentials.
