Fearless Fish
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So what's Antony done?
Mason Greenwood
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coluka
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I bet they have circulated his availability to clubs around the country for a years loan or even worldwide for a sale. I can’t see any club taking the risk in the UK, carnage on the terraces, from all quarters. It would set any club playing him back with support not going. I mean what would the changing room be like too, there will be so many players not willing to share a pitch with him. I bet there are some Man Utd players who wont want to eat a meal in the canteen with him, let alone play alongside him.
The Card Cheat
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Accused of domestic violence by his girlfriend. No charges as yet, but only a very recent allegation.
I know nothing of the Anthony case, which means they've probably done a good job keeping it quiet, but what I have read is there was an allegation against him but I'm not aware of there being any evidence, like the Greenwood recording. In Greenwood's case we don't need to know whether the courts would have found him guilty or not because we've heard the evidence and can make up our own minds. Whether he was convicted or not I am comfortable saying he is a disgusting person and I wouldn't want him anywhere near my football club. Anthony would be able to hide behind his "charges dropped" and say it is because it was false where Greenwood can't. It's an extremely low prosecution rate for these sort of things because there is usually no evidence and then it becomes one person's word against another.
Similarly for Ronaldo. He denies everything but he also sent a letter to his lawyer admitting the woman said no. He also paid her $350k to keep quiet.
Similarly for Ronaldo. He denies everything but he also sent a letter to his lawyer admitting the woman said no. He also paid her $350k to keep quiet.
TeessideCleveland
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I don't want any 'help' for Greenwood. I would hope some help for the victim may make her see that it would be better to leave him though
coluka
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That is so true r00fie1
I still would not want him for the circus it brings too, even if some could hold their noses and put their morals to one side.
Football has been taken away from the working man, football clubs appear mere organisations that are the personal play things of the uber rich used as a cover for all sorts of laundering, not just kits. They are ego extensions like super Yachts, Lamborghini’s, mansions, christ, now even whole countries leaders waving their clubs around like wangers trying to claim theirs as the biggest and best. As Harry Enfield once scripted….. “I am considerably richer than You”
We supporters are often taken for mugs, you only have to look at the ticketing prices around the country and compare it with abroad. Yet we smile, turn up in our droves, win, lose or draw most will be back, grateful for a £5 pie and an overpriced, lukewarm pint of yellow liquid that tastes like pi$$. We overlook the innocuous way we all get shafted, turn a blind eye, because its our club, its a business, we think we are doing our bit financially to help but I’m not so sure supporters are respected as we believe we are.
For every Mason Greenwood that hits, sorry makes, the news there will be others that don’t and are lauded as heroes, because their money and wealth, that we all contribute in some small way toward funding, can use it to protect their brand. What we don’t know can’t outrage us right?
exeterboro
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The Utd season ticket holder I work with is very against him appearing for Utd again, claiming that he will be at least booed if he turns out them .
The initial OP said that Utd fans on social media want him back, this may be true, in this aga where it so easy to give fake accounts and responses and I would seriously believe it would be a move by the Glazers to get him as an asset back on the books( 30-50 million) to help get a really inflated ( obscene) fee for the club
The initial OP said that Utd fans on social media want him back, this may be true, in this aga where it so easy to give fake accounts and responses and I would seriously believe it would be a move by the Glazers to get him as an asset back on the books( 30-50 million) to help get a really inflated ( obscene) fee for the club
The_Lizards_Jumpers
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Based on what I'm seeing on Twitter, in the main the match going / season ticket holding Utd fans dont want him back. The vocal ones who claim there's a way back are often located overseas.
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Yes. I have noticed the same. A lot from countries where the rights of women aren't exactly at the top of their priorities.
TeaCider
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The United fans on social media that are supportive of him returning, at least the ones that I've seen on Twitter, are largely glory supporters from Africa and Asia and seem to have far less issue with the accusations to begin with.
Not that it'll be universal with that, and I'm sure there are some Man U fans from the UK that are okay with him returning.
Either way, it's horrendous that they're even considering letting him return.
He's a rapist and an abuser, it's just a shame that the victim has been coerced and he's not getting the conviction he deserved.
I think the victim is scared and intimidated by the scum.Immagine how her parents must feel.
r00fie1
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I concur entirely with your sentiments.That is so true r00fie1
I still would not want him for the circus it brings too, even if some could hold their noses and put their morals to one side.
Football has been taken away from the working man, football clubs appear mere organisations that are the personal play things of the uber rich used as a cover for all sorts of laundering, not just kits. They are ego extensions like super Yachts, Lamborghini’s, mansions, christ, now even whole countries leaders waving their clubs around like wangers trying to claim theirs as the biggest and best. As Harry Enfield once scripted….. “I am considerably richer than You”
We supporters are often taken for mugs, you only have to look at the ticketing prices around the country and compare it with abroad. Yet we smile, turn up in our droves, win, lose or draw most will be back, grateful for a £5 pie and an overpriced, lukewarm pint of yellow liquid that tastes like pi$$. We overlook the innocuous way we all get shafted, turn a blind eye, because its our club, its a business, we think we are doing our bit financially to help but I’m not so sure supporters are respected as we believe we are.
For every Mason Greenwood that hits, sorry makes, the news there will be others that don’t and are lauded as heroes, because their money and wealth, that we all contribute in some small way toward funding, can use it to protect their brand. What we don’t know can’t outrage us right?
The working mans games stinks to high heaven [if there is one] of corruption, blackmail, mysogeny, racism, homophobia, money laundering, denial of basic human rights, tyrants and immoral sports-washers and criminals. The game is awash with examples - so there`s no need for me to elaborate. We, as individuals cant change very much, but we can vocalise our concerns and make life difficult where it matters. "For The love of money is the root of all evil" [Timothy 6:10 KJB] [.No I`m not religious, but King James has its uses].
SKY was / is the key which opened the door to this toxic cesspit of corruption and abhorent immorality. It continues to ruin and rape our game of the value it once had for communities and individuals across the land. We can hold on to the club we hold most dear and hope that the foreign "investors" [says it all] and those with aspirations to line their pockets flirting with tyrants, will pizz off into their Super League and World Club Space Bubbles. The rest of us can then have our game back and Mr Murdoch and the rest can shove their dollars and TV Cameras ip their arze.
UTMB
Jedi boro
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Lee Hughes jailed for six years
Lee Hughes has been jailed for six years after being found guilty of causing death by dangerous driving following a trial at Coventry crown court.
www.theguardian.com
r00fie1
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Im all for treating people fairly and on the merits of each case, but in the case of Greenwood - his presence would bring the club into disrepute, question the priorities, morals and decency of the owners and provide the wrong message to younger players. It would be like throwing a grenade into the dressing room. Importantly, It also sows doubts in the mind of the female team members. and the clubs sincerity in fighting discrimination and abuse. Guilty or not, if players are alleged to have been guilty of this type of behaviours [though not a decision made in court] they should be out the door. United have prevaricated far too long.
No thank you.
No thank you.
Jonathan
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He's a scumbag, and I think how Man Utd have acted about the whole thing is disgusting.
Sick of Ten Hag giving it the whole "ohh I'm just the manager I have no say in who plays for me. It's not up to me whether he plays for the club again" as well. It literally f*cking is up to you, grow a spine. Then them deciding to apparently leave it to their women's players to decide, and making them a target of Twitter weirdos in the process. Gutless, slimeball club.
Sick of Ten Hag giving it the whole "ohh I'm just the manager I have no say in who plays for me. It's not up to me whether he plays for the club again" as well. It literally f*cking is up to you, grow a spine. Then them deciding to apparently leave it to their women's players to decide, and making them a target of Twitter weirdos in the process. Gutless, slimeball club.
changingman
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It probably says more about my general dim view of society at large, and football "lads" in particular, but I think there's a risk this is glorified on the terraces if he returns.
What a thoroughly depressing thought but I fear, one that might not be far from the mark.
What a thoroughly depressing thought but I fear, one that might not be far from the mark.
Alzi
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Glorified? I very much doubt it and think you're doing a disservice to fans in this country. A few knuckle draggers on twitter aren't representative of fans as a whole.
He can look forward to chants of "Rapist" at every ground he plays at if he ever does play in the UK again.