johnsmithsno2
Well-known member
I phrased it badly. A majority in favour of a united Ireland. There's been a sizeable Catholic minority not in favour.
It's a contentious issue. What did you expect when you raised it?That’s quite a confrontational view to take.
In answer to this:But what do you call it on though this “democratic” referendum do you just ask the north or do you ask the whole of Ireland ( which she’ll push for) because then that’s a completely different situation.
But what do you call it on though this “democratic” referendum do you just ask the north or do you ask the whole of Ireland ( which she’ll push for) because then that’s a completely different situation.
They weren’t fully paid. Any of them.Back from another 2 year lay off…fully paid. Some academic on the radio this morning said that there hasn’t been a consistent, coherent government in place in reality for about 6 years.
It’s a place where people seem to have longer memories than most. For obvious reasons.
They would obviously have their own referendum, as you have to have one in Ireland to change the constitution.How about she thinks about what those in the Republic want? I’ve worked with a few brilliant Irish people and none were interested in a united Ireland.
Complicated as you say.They would obviously have their own referendum, as you have to have one in Ireland to change the constitution.
It's a complicated picture, but support for Unity is strong in Ireland.
Also, all three major parties support it and would campaign in favour.
Irish Times/ARINS poll: Support for United Ireland is strong, but debate on costs and compromises to come first
Some 64% of voters in the South would vote for a united Ireland if a referendum were held now, with just 16% opposed to unificationwww.irishtimes.com
Edit.They weren’t fully paid. Any of them.
I do think the cultural type differences, especially in the working class communities of Northern Ireland are still pretty deep. In 1922 there would have been a very bitter civil war in the Northern Counties a bit like the Balkans if Ireland was not split. Many Unionist said they would rather die than be part of an independent Eire.
There was no effective power sharing from 1922 to around 1999 (NI was generally run for the benefit of the Unionists, now there seems to be a form of power sharing which has to be the right way).
It is interesting to see Sein Fein in ruling power, many of who supported the Provisional IRA say 30 years ago. Remember when we always got the line from the UK Government, we will never talk to terrorists.
But would you ?Im also from an Irish catholic family but I just worry it’s Nicola sturgeon on steroids.
Agreed - but I bet the UK Government ministers say under Margaret Thatcher were not expecting Sein Fein to be the main party in power in NI in 2024. I find it interesting how the former terrorists have become the leaders. Gerry Adams was interned in the 1970s and in the early 1990s he was legally gagged in the UK media.But they did talk to terrorists, hence why we got the B(GF)A.
And the DUP weren't signatories of the Agreement and campaigned against it's adoption and Nationalists were happy to live with them as First Minister.