Mrs Vacuous Strikes Again

[Muttley]

There was a thing she said that seemed to be rather ignored. In her latest "My Struggle" or whatever her Autobiog is called she wrote that when Good Queen Liz popped her clogs her initial thought was "Why now, why me?"

Because that seems to me to tell you all that you need to know about the lovely Ms Truss.

 

[NYboro]

There was a thing she said that seemed to be rather ignored. In her latest "My Struggle" or whatever her Autobiog is called she wrote that when Good Queen Liz popped her clogs her initial thought was "Why now, why me?"

It must have come as quite a shock to realise that she'd killed the queen.

 

[JackG]

There was a thing she said that seemed to be rather ignored. In her latest "My Struggle" or whatever her Autobiog is called she wrote that when Good Queen Liz popped her clogs her initial thought was "Why now, why me?"

Because that seems to me to tell you all that you need to know about the lovely Ms Truss.

Or 'Mein Kampf' in the original German

 

[speckyget]

It must have come as quite a shock to realise that she'd killed the queen.

The prospect of a weekly audience with Truss must have eased the transition somewhat for her maj.

 

[masquesmog]

I imagine after that first meeting she was thinking, "Christ, to think I started this malarkey with Winston Churchill."

Would you bother getting out of bed the next morning?

 

[UgoAfro]

What, happy with our cheese imports are you?

That is a disgrace.

 

[Capybara]

That. is. a. dis. grace.

Fixed it for you.

 

[Frozen Horse]

I don't even think she is mad, just desperate. She knows Trump is likely to get back in and is doing the most to get on the 'right' side.

Presumably the 'far right' side?

I've been reading the BBC article on her book. This quote jumped out to me:

"we have Conservative politicians accepting extremist environmentalist dogma and wokeism".

I think I've lost track of what "woke" and "wokeism" is meant to mean. Furthermore, I'm not sure why it is considered inherently bad.

Coming from Truss, it sounds like the 21st century equivalent of the witch-smeller pointing an accusing finger and shouting "witch!". Both are meaningless, but cause uproar, but are there any sound reasons why it causes such revulsion?

What does "woke" or "being woke" mean to you, is it a fundamentally bad thing, and if so why?

 

[Brian Marwood]

Presumably the 'far right' side?

I've been reading the BBC article on her book. This quote jumped out to me:

"we have Conservative politicians accepting extremist environmentalist dogma and wokeism".

I think I've lost track of what "woke" and "wokeism" is meant to mean. Furthermore, I'm not sure why it is considered inherently bad.

Coming from Truss, it sounds like the 21st century equivalent of the witch-smeller pointing an accusing finger and shouting "witch!". Both are meaningless, but cause uproar, but are there any sound reasons why it causes such revulsion?

What does "woke" or "being woke" mean to you, is it a fundamentally bad thing, and if so why?

Woke = displaying empathy

 

[TheYorkshireTerrier]

Presumably the 'far right' side?

I've been reading the BBC article on her book. This quote jumped out to me:

"we have Conservative politicians accepting extremist environmentalist dogma and wokeism".

I think I've lost track of what "woke" and "wokeism" is meant to mean. Furthermore, I'm not sure why it is considered inherently bad.

Coming from Truss, it sounds like the 21st century equivalent of the witch-smeller pointing an accusing finger and shouting "witch!". Both are meaningless, but cause uproar, but are there any sound reasons why it causes such revulsion?

What does "woke" or "being woke" mean to you, is it a fundamentally bad thing, and if so why?

As Bri says, being classed as 'woke' to me is being empathetic and aware of injustices, being progressive etc.

I tune out when anyone uses it these days though, mainly from people who've read it in right wing media, it just gets a roll of the eye from me.

It's the new 'politically correct', used as a dog whistle by the likes of Truss. For those who think the world was a much better place back in their day, and any change to their way of living is seen as a bad thing.

 

[fozzylegend]

As Bri says, being classed as 'woke' to me is being empathetic and aware of injustices, being progressive etc.

I tune out when anyone uses it these days though, mainly from people who've read it in right wing media, it just gets a roll of the eye from me.

It's the new 'politically correct', used as a dog whistle by the likes of Truss. For those who think the world was a much better place back in their day, and any change to their way of living is seen as a bad thing.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1502941939427074050

i think Kathy Burke said it best when......

 

[Mustoes boots]

The prospect of a weekly audience with Truss must have eased the transition somewhat for her maj.

Remember when King Charles was caught on mike at an audience saying "Are you still here?" what did he know

 

[Mustoes boots]

Presumably the 'far right' side?

I've been reading the BBC article on her book. This quote jumped out to me:

"we have Conservative politicians accepting extremist environmentalist dogma and wokeism".

I think I've lost track of what "woke" and "wokeism" is meant to mean. Furthermore, I'm not sure why it is considered inherently bad.

Coming from Truss, it sounds like the 21st century equivalent of the witch-smeller pointing an accusing finger and shouting "witch!". Both are meaningless, but cause uproar, but are there any sound reasons why it causes such revulsion?

What does "woke" or "being woke" mean to you, is it a fundamentally bad thing, and if so why?

Remember as Enviro"mental " Secretary she allowed water companies to pump raw sewage into our waters shows she cares about the profits of foreign owned companies to the health of the citizens she is meant to represent so to her woke is protecting lives.

 

[The Card Cheat]

Or 'Mein Kampf' in the original German

That is insane. It's either an unbelievably stupid and ignorant choice, or she is deliberately paying homage to Adolf Hitler.
I'm genuinely not sure which one it is...

Edit - think I may have a whoosh moment.
It genuinely didn't suprise me, when I thought she might have called it that though!

 

[Frozen Horse]

I tune out when anyone uses it these days though, mainly from people who've read it in right wing media, it just gets a roll of the eye from me.

I tend to agree with that.
I think it's used as a vague label for " things I don't like".

I'm not sure those using it as term of abuse would agree on what it meant, just that they hate wokeness. It cheapens political discussion as soon as it's used.

 

[Capybara]

I tend to agree with that.
I think it's used as a vague label for " things I don't like".

Yes. That they don't have the intellectual capacity to explain.

 

[festa5]

I hate to defned Truss, she doesn't seem mentally stable at the moment, but she IS an elected leader. As is Sunak. The both won their seats in the GE. We don't have, and never have had, an amercina style "presidential" General Election

Or at least we pretend that's the case. You'd better tell that to everyone moaning about Starmer or Corbyn, "doesn't matter lads, you're not voting for them anyway unless you're in their constituency".

The reality is although technically people are voting for their local MP I'd daresay in reality most vote first and foremost for the party they represent and who they'd like to be PM.

Another reason our system isn't fit for purpose, it's supposedly trying to do one thing, but actually doing another.

I'd say most tory voters at the last election voted tory on the understanding (and with the intention) of it meaning Boris Johnson becoming prime minister. Which is still mad, but at least that decision had some vague resemblance of democracy to it.

 

[SmallTown]

Or at least we pretend that's the case. You'd better tell that to everyone moaning about Starmer or Corbyn, "doesn't matter lads, you're not voting for them anyway unless you're in their constituency".

The reality is although technically people are voting for their local MP I'd daresay in reality most vote first and foremost for the party they represent and who they'd like to be PM.

Another reason our system isn't fit for purpose, it's supposedly trying to do one thing, but actually doing another.

I'd say most tory voters at the last election voted tory on the understanding (and with the intention) of it meaning Boris Johnson becoming prime minister. Which is still mad, but at least that decision had some vague resemblance of democracy to it.

I know that’s what people think but that doesn’t necessarily mean the system is broken: just that not enough people understand it. If they weren’t in Uxbridge they werent voting for “Boris” we need to educate people in British politics

 

[1finny]

We have this lunatic openly supporting an aspiring President who organised an insurrection to prevent him from leaving office.
We have Braverman openly attending a right wing conference (against party rules)
We have another Government MP asking the electorate to vote for 30p Lee (despite him being in reform). Again - against party rules.

All this happens and not a peep from Cabinet ministers.

Their have always been fruitcakes and they have usually been dealt with.

These people must have some very influential supporters - it’s too easy to dismiss them all as just a bunch of self obsessed idiots.

 

[JackG]

We have this lunatic openly supporting an aspiring President who organised an insurrection to prevent him from leaving office.
We have Braverman openly attending a right wing conference (against party rules)
We have another Government MP asking the electorate to vote for 30p Lee (despite him being in reform). Again - against party rules.

All this happens and not a peep from Cabinet ministers.

Their have always been fruitcakes and they have usually been dealt with.

These people must have some very influential supporters - it’s too easy to dismiss them all as just a bunch of self obsessed idiots.

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