New Season Tickets on sale for 2024/25

No he didn’t. The actual figure he wrote off will be much lower due to tax write offs and all sorts of other financial moves, don’t get me wrong he’s still out of pocket but not to the tune of anywhere near that figure
Is Middlesbrough Football club £107m more attractive to any potential buyer now it’s left the balance sheet? Yes

Why the largesse of one man covering it with the equivalent of around 10years total season ticket value.

I’m only poking with a stick as season ticket holders whinging about prices every season gets boring.
 
Some posters will be aware that I have strongly tried to support the Club with recent price increases.
This was fundamentally because of the low revenue ex VAT that the club actually gets per head and the obvious inflationary pressures they were facing and the fact there had been frozen prices for many seasons.
I also thought in January 2023 that the club was in a really exciting place, FFP strong and poised to really kick on. You could smell the ambition and the resultant buy in from the fans. It felt like there was a real connection between club and fanbase.

I have always thought the pricing structure to be flawed:
I think Walk up prices are far too high everywhere in the ground - a bizarre obscene premium on EB SC's. New SC's are also at an obscene premium; and why on earth would you not package runs of matches when they were going to be under-subscribed?
I do think kids SC prices and Concessions in general are already pretty good value, while the Family Zone is ridiculously cheap and insanely structured. The gap between a FZ adult and kids and a Walk up equivalent is amateur hour pricing.
Frozen Horse was always ploughing the club is absolutely right furrow. I just agreed to disagree.
They got Sunderland revenues on 2/3 Sunderland attendances. Gibson clearly doesn't care how many are there, just how much they collectively pay.

But the club footed arrogance shown this time around leaves it impossible for me to defend Gibson.

1. The Club has regressed in every way since the EB communication of 2023.
2. The communication of the EB renewal of 2024 is utterly baffling. Not even an attempt to explain why anybody should buy into committing significantly more money with a third of this season remaining. No rallying call, no declaration of intent, let alone commitment. No thanks or even acknowledgement of current support. No explanation of cost pressures, no justification, no expression of regret at the need. This is what it is; its up to you. Oh and don't hang around, because you've got one pay day to sort it, or "gotcha". Need credit? Cheers I'll take a cut of that too.

Steve Gibson HAS converted another £107m of debt to equity. He HAS now put in £197m of Equity and Reserves into the Club. He HAS still got further outstanding loans of c£40m that he is unlikely to ever recover if he keeps the club in the Championship.
I was sceptical about him actually doing what he did in October last year, but it is irrefutable that he has now funded the club with almost a quarter of a billion pounds since 1993 AND it is still absolutely worthless.
I definitely don't question his financial commitment to the club and it must be soul destroying funding guaranteed Championship losses and trying to compete with richer owners.

But Gibson is immeasurably better at transporting toxic waste than he is running a football club.
I think he has got this pricing decision and comms seismically wrong and seriously mis-judged the mood and reaction of many fans.
It's too much, its too early, its contemptuously timed, arrogantly communicated and its likely to backfire.

I do feel really disconnected.
I am a Boroholic and it will take some combination of factors for me personally not to renew, but for the first time I will be leaving it to deadline day.
My Dad's just gone into a Residential Home, my 2 sons are questioning why they trawl up and down religiously from Leeds, my old uncle is becoming disengaged and the cousin I've been all around the country with for 40 years is as disillusioned as me, whilst his daughter is away to Uni in Sept.
That's 7 of us in the West Upper who can afford to go, questioning whether we will. Ive sat a few times midweek this season as the only one of our 7 there. It's not a good night out. Not sure I want 23 of them next season.

Excellent post
 
This is the renewal e-Mail my other half received from Man Utd last week. At least it has a degree of appreciation. Btw, her season ticket renewal is £570 in the Stretford End.

Thank you for your continued support this season. Your loyalty is what makes Manchester United the greatest football club in the world.

Attendances at Old Trafford have been at record levels this season and we appreciate your contribution to keeping the stadium full and vibrant for every home game. As we commence the Season Ticket renewals process for the 2024/25 campaign, we hope that you will be with us again next season to help drive the team towards success.

We understand the economic pressures that many fans are feeling at the moment, and we are committed to keeping our prices among the most competitive in the Premier League. However, to ensure the club operates on a sustainable basis and to support investment in the team and stadium, Season Ticket prices will increase by 5% next season, rounded to the nearest pound, reflecting the continued rise in match day operating costs at Old Trafford. We will also continue to offer the same level of discount to concessionary ticket holders.
Yeah and if she doesn’t turn up for 6 games in a row she loses it
 
Some posters will be aware that I have strongly tried to support the Club with recent price increases.
This was fundamentally because of the low revenue ex VAT that the club actually gets per head and the obvious inflationary pressures they were facing and the fact there had been frozen prices for many seasons.
I also thought in January 2023 that the club was in a really exciting place, FFP strong and poised to really kick on. You could smell the ambition and the resultant buy in from the fans. It felt like there was a real connection between club and fanbase.

I have always thought the pricing structure to be flawed:
I think Walk up prices are far too high everywhere in the ground - a bizarre obscene premium on EB SC's. New SC's are also at an obscene premium; and why on earth would you not package runs of matches when they were going to be under-subscribed?
I do think kids SC prices and Concessions in general are already pretty good value, while the Family Zone is ridiculously cheap and insanely structured. The gap between a FZ adult and kids and a Walk up equivalent is amateur hour pricing.
Frozen Horse was always ploughing the club is absolutely right furrow. I just agreed to disagree.
They got Sunderland revenues on 2/3 Sunderland attendances. Gibson clearly doesn't care how many are there, just how much they collectively pay.

But the club footed arrogance shown this time around leaves it impossible for me to defend Gibson.

1. The Club has regressed in every way since the EB communication of 2023.
2. The communication of the EB renewal of 2024 is utterly baffling. Not even an attempt to explain why anybody should buy into committing significantly more money with a third of this season remaining. No rallying call, no declaration of intent, let alone commitment. No thanks or even acknowledgement of current support. No explanation of cost pressures, no justification, no expression of regret at the need. This is what it is; its up to you. Oh and don't hang around, because you've got one pay day to sort it, or "gotcha". Need credit? Cheers I'll take a cut of that too.

Steve Gibson HAS converted another £107m of debt to equity. He HAS now put in £197m of Equity and Reserves into the Club. He HAS still got further outstanding loans of c£40m that he is unlikely to ever recover if he keeps the club in the Championship.
I was sceptical about him actually doing what he did in October last year, but it is irrefutable that he has now funded the club with almost a quarter of a billion pounds since 1993 AND it is still absolutely worthless.
I definitely don't question his financial commitment to the club and it must be soul destroying funding guaranteed Championship losses and trying to compete with richer owners.

But Gibson is immeasurably better at transporting toxic waste than he is running a football club.
I think he has got this pricing decision and comms seismically wrong and seriously mis-judged the mood and reaction of many fans.
It's too much, its too early, its contemptuously timed, arrogantly communicated and its likely to backfire.

I do feel really disconnected.
I am a Boroholic and it will take some combination of factors for me personally not to renew, but for the first time I will be leaving it to deadline day.
My Dad's just gone into a Residential Home, my 2 sons are questioning why they trawl up and down religiously from Leeds, my old uncle is becoming disengaged and the cousin I've been all around the country with for 40 years is as disillusioned as me, whilst his daughter is away to Uni in Sept.
That's 7 of us in the West Upper who can afford to go, questioning whether we will. Ive sat a few times midweek this season as the only one of our 7 there. It's not a good night out. Not sure I want 23 of them next season.
Perfectly put.
 
£43.35 arrangement fee to utilise the ‘pay by instalment’ option. Club proudly say interest is ‘nil’ but those who don’t have £500 to £670 available in the next few weeks can add £43.35 (another 7or8%) onto their season ticket costs. Club will say that’s life and arranging credit costs money but it is hitting those least able to pay the hardest.
 

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£43.35 arrangement fee to utilise the ‘pay by instalment’ option. Club proudly say interest is ‘nil’ but those who don’t have £500 to £670 available in the next few weeks can add £43.35 (another 7or8%) onto their season ticket costs. Club will say that’s life and arranging credit costs money but it is hitting those least able to pay the hardest.
I think that extra fee is absolutely disgusting.
 
Just got home to see the Early Bird announcement. Not had a chance to go through 15 pages yet to see reactions here, but another increase is absolutely disgusting and completely unjustified. The deadline being brought forward again is absolutely incredible as well, the 15th of F***ing March?

The club are so far out of touch with the fans and our area, it's mind boggling. I've just seen the post above highlighting a ridiculous fee for those wishing (or should I say, needing) to put it on finance too. Horrible.

Genuinely angry at the prices, the decision to bring the deadline forward, and the absolute contempt it shows to those they clearly class as punters and nothing else. What a set of **** takers we have in charge.

Think this season was my 25th in a row with a season ticket. This is the first time I've actually thought that fck them and that I won't bother.
 
£43.35 arrangement fee to utilise the ‘pay by instalment’ option. Club proudly say interest is ‘nil’ but those who don’t have £500 to £670 available in the next few weeks can add £43.35 (another 7or8%) onto their season ticket costs. Club will say that’s life and arranging credit costs money but it is hitting those least able to pay the hardest.

And some people will pay it because football is a habit for them, it's part of their lives. They are customers but also much more than that.

Something clubs encourage but are also quite happy to take advantage of. For some, rightly or wrongly, they'll almost feel like they have to go. Such a big part of their identity. And this will be the only way they can pay for it.

It's immoral.
 
Yeah and if she doesn’t turn up for 6 games in a row she loses it
Strange comment. Why would she not turn up for 6 games? If for any reason she can’t go to a game, I.e., on holiday she transfers her match ticket electronically to another fan member at Man Utd. From next season, she is allowed to transfer a match day ticket to an U16 non-member.
 
Best part of 2500 for a family to watch 31 hrs hours of football that is of the standard that Jordan Hugill plays at.

In Teesside this is rediculous.

Had the increase been offset by a reduction in kids prices, fair enough.

Had the early bird been the close of the season, fair enough.. a few months to get a marketing strategy together etc.

How on earth can I buy tickets for a 50,000 attending festival on Klarna, but not a season ticket ?
 
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£43.35 arrangement fee to utilise the ‘pay by instalment’ option. Club proudly say interest is ‘nil’ but those who don’t have £500 to £670 available in the next few weeks can add £43.35 (another 7or8%) onto their season ticket costs. Club will say that’s life and arranging credit costs money but it is hitting those least able to pay the hardest.
This is why the cost per game argument is redundant, you have to have over £500 available to be able to get a season ticket, at least 0% finance and nil arrangement fee meant those without a the money could afford a ST.

For a forum that broadly believes in socialism and supports the Labour Party I’m amazed by the number of I’m alright Jacks, ‘it’s only 22 quid a game’ and if you can’t afford it don’t buy one.


Yep definitely one club aren’t we!!!
 
I’m going flounce around the living room muttering expletives about little Napoleon - then I’ll renew 😵‍💫 probably five minutes before the deadline - that’ll teach em 😵‍💫
 
Just seen this on X, surely can’t be right is it

Boro early bird pricing for a new adult fan. Cheapest ticket £574.

For reference, cheapest season tickets at:

Man City: £385
Man Utd: £551
Burnley: £335
Newcastle: £438
Wolves: £525
Forest £465
West Ham £310
 
Just seen this on X, surely can’t be right is it

Boro early bird pricing for a new adult fan. Cheapest ticket £574.

For reference, cheapest season tickets at:

Man City: £385
Man Utd: £551
Burnley: £335
Newcastle: £438
Wolves: £525
Forest £465
West Ham £310

Definitely waiting lists at a few of those
 
Just seen this on X, surely can’t be right is it

Boro early bird pricing for a new adult fan. Cheapest ticket £574.

For reference, cheapest season tickets at:

Man City: £385
Man Utd: £551
Burnley: £335
Newcastle: £438
Wolves: £525
Forest £465
West Ham £310
Ah yes, but that's for less games.
Quantity over quality every day of the week!
 
Didn’t you formerly have a profile picture that said something about hating the Tories, yet here you are defending working class people being priced out of a working class sport. Amazing.
You seem to know a lot about my history Albert, been stalking me for a while have we? You’re someone who only joined a week ago you’re very RAW.
 
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