Nick Cave at Globe - Freebies

[junos_boots]

If anyone is registered with Show Film First (SFF) they are giving tickets away for this (booking fee of £3.50 is all). I cannot make it sadly.

I have just received an email off them, so check your inboxes

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[Lefty]

Already going.

I hope this doesn't mean tickets haven't sold well.

 

[asredastheycome]

Hope it does they then may reconsider the ridiculous pricing.
There is a couple of shows I really wanted to go to but refuse to pay silly money.

 

[Lefty]

Hope it does they then may reconsider the ridiculous pricing.
There is a couple of shows I really wanted to go to but refuse to pay silly money.

I must admit, the pricing is high.

Given I've not seen him before and the venue, I justified it, but it's a hike. I'd like to know how much the venue is getting.

I am in favour of a little more on tickets post pandemic (and even before) for the smaller bands and smaller venues, as frankly they are ridiculous value for money anyway sometimes. The more established, bigger names though, they are not three or four times better than Twisterella or Stockton Calling for instance, they are not even better full stop. Although most people don't realise that since they don't go to see up and coming bands at small venues, the daft mugs.

 

[DCI_Gene_Hunt]

Already going.

I hope this doesn't mean tickets haven't sold well.

Only about 50 tickets left, dropping the price looks like its worked in shifting the remaining tickets.

 

[DCI_Gene_Hunt]

I must admit, the pricing is high.

Given I've not seen him before and the venue, I justified it, but it's a hike. I'd like to know how much the venue is getting.

I am in favour of a little more on tickets post pandemic (and even before) for the smaller bands and smaller venues, as frankly they are ridiculous value for money anyway sometimes. The more established, bigger names though, they are not three or four times better than Twisterella or Stockton Calling for instance, they are not even better full stop. Although most people don't realise that since they don't go to see up and coming bands at small venues, the daft mugs.

Nick Cave's management/booking agent will most likely be charging each venue a flat fee - the ticket price will be dictated by capacity, any other costs, the venue/owners business model (ie how much profit they expect to make).

For major artists, the venues, the promoters, the booking agents would all expect the ticket price to be very similar across all the venues being used so there is not a wide difference. Often booking agents stipulate the price of the ticket.

 

[Lefty]

Nick Cave's management/booking agent will most likely be charging each venue a flat fee - the ticket price will be dictated by capacity, any other costs, the venue/owners business model (ie how much profit they expect to make).

For major artists, the venues, the promoters, the booking agents would all expect the ticket price to be very similar across all the venues being used so there is not a wide difference. Often booking agents stipulate the price of the ticket.

So driven by the artist mainly?

 

[DCI_Gene_Hunt]

So driven by the artist mainly?

At NC level he will have a booking agent who will sort all that and take a hefty cut out of it as well........NC will have very little input into the whole process other than what his fee is.

I was chasing a band and the agent stipulated a ticket fee (£15) and gave me a rider with a list of requirements (additional costs) and she said make an offer based on those costs.

So in a 300 capacity venue you know what he max income you get is by selling out but you would never base an offer on the show selling out so what happens is you agree a flat fee based on selling a % of available tickets and then usually there's an 80/20 split in the artists favour of any profits above the guarantee - it's all geared in the artists favour so many venues rely on bar sales for profits as they make little profit on actual gigs.

 

[Lefty]

At NC level he will have a booking agent who will sort all that and take a hefty cut out of it as well........NC will have very little input into the whole process other than what his fee is.

I was chasing a band and the agent stipulated a ticket fee (£15) and gave me a rider with a list of requirements (additional costs) and she said make an offer based on those costs.

So in a 300 capacity venue you know what he max income you get is by selling out but you would never base an offer on the show selling out so what happens is you agree a flat fee based on selling a % of available tickets and then usually there's an 80/20 split in the artists favour of any profits above the guarantee - it's all geared in the artists favour so many venues rely on bar sales for profits as they make little profit on actual gigs.

Pretty scandalous what some of these bigger bands charge, but I suppose it is all knock on from the demise of record sales and the low streaming revenue.

Those at the top over value themselves in comparison to those lower down the pecking order.

The same is true in football and Amazon and indeed everywhere else in the version of capitalism we practice.

 

[DCI_Gene_Hunt]

Pretty scandalous what some of these bigger bands charge, but I suppose it is all knock on from the demise of record sales and the low streaming revenue.

Those at the top over value themselves in comparison to those lower down the pecking order.

The same is true in football and Amazon and indeed everywhere else in the version of capitalism we practice.

It's so much better when you can deal with the band direct, agree a fee, buy 'em some beers & pizza & have a great time. Sadly that only works on a low level and for one off gigs or small runs, Be impossible to organise a nationwide tour like that.