Palace sack Viera

FWIW I think they’ve massively gone early. Their ten winless games were all against top half teams, five of them were draws and they only got Lokonga on loan in January after a quiet summer where they lost Connor Gallagher. Vieira has been hard done by there….

After Arsenal, eight of their last ten are against teams below them.
 
yeah they've had a tough run of games and they've all been close. seems a bit harsh but maybe they felt they needed a bounce before the crucial games

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Carrick was linked in the Guardian this morning, as was Vincent Kompany. I’d be amazed if either of those two went to Palace. Palace are just about to get to that point that pretty much every club of that size gets to where you peak and then slowly tail off, then get relegated.

Boro, Stoke, Southampton, Birmingham, Sunderland, West Ham, Leicester, Forest, the Sheffield clubs, Leeds, Wolves… the list goes on. All of those have had good spells in the top flight and then dropped out. In fact Palace have done absolutely brilliantly to stay up there for a decade.

The thing with them is there’s no real glamour, no real ‘narrative’ for the media to follow and project, for some reason. So their achievements are rarely properly remarked upon. What more could a club of that size and with that amount of financial backing reasonably expect to achieve? Continuous top flight football and a cup run or two is just about their limit. And they have done those things.

IMO of course.
 
Think Carrick will want a solid achievement on his c.v. before he moves. Avoiding relegation with a team that should avoid it in any case doesn't really count, and I'd like to think he would stay next season ('to finish the job') even if we don't go up.

That said, there is latent potential in Palace as their huge catchment is probably the biggest talent hotbed in UK football.
 
Palace struggling with being in the Premier League too long syndrome and looking for the manager to take them to that next level, probably a bit miffed by Brighton and Brentford’s success too. Wonder if they might take a relegation spot and save Everton?
 
viv_andersons_nana said:
Carrick was linked in the Guardian this morning, as was Vincent Kompany. I’d be amazed if either of those two went to Palace. Palace are just about to get to that point that pretty much every club of that size gets to where you peak and then slowly tail off, then get relegated.

Boro, Stoke, Southampton, Birmingham, Sunderland, West Ham, Leicester, Forest, the Sheffield clubs, Leeds, Wolves… the list goes on. All of those have had good spells in the top flight and then dropped out. In fact Palace have done absolutely brilliantly to stay up there for a decade.

The thing with them is there’s no real glamour, no real ‘narrative’ for the media to follow and project, for some reason. So their achievements are rarely properly remarked upon. What more could a club of that size and with that amount of financial backing reasonably expect to achieve? Continuous top flight football and a cup run or two is just about their limit. And they have done those things.

IMO of course.
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Great post viv. Outside of the really big clubs and a few fortunate others like Everton, there is probably a limit to how long they can sustain finishing lower mid table in the Premier League. Once you hit the glass ceiling and start to regress slowly, it seems inevitable that relegation will happen sooner or later as the fanbase becomes jaded by relentless mediocrity.

I don't follow Palace closely, but from the outside they seem to be at the start of that death spiral and if they stay up this season, as they probably will, they are likely to face a much bigger struggle to do the same next season.
 
In no universe would Kompany leave Burnley this season.

They're getting promoted, he's going to be managing in the Premier League next season anyway.

Why would he tarnish that by leaving to join a relegation battle at the end of the season?
 
Zero chance of them looking at an up and coming manager at a championship club in this situation.

Plenty more experienced fire fighters not currently contracted to clubs who can step in until the end of the season.
 
Palace were very fortunate to go up when they did and have done really well to stay up.
Relegation will be extremely challenging for them. I can see them being down for a very very long time if they do drop.
7 London clubs in the top flight is extremely unhealthy.
 
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