Players that have a mistake in them

Jedi boro

Jedi boro

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Can they ever overcome this.

look at stones every one knows he’ll drop a clanger sooner or later, I feel the same with bettineli it’s just in their game just as it was with Guzan and Brad Jones

I do think some players just have that in their game and it will surface sooner rather than later.
 
Why I’m posting this is because if I as a fan can ( and you all can as well) see this then surely the opposition know it as well.

if your a striker playing us just waiting for the rebound as it’s coming sane with two Brads as well.
 
All players make mistakes.

Bettinelli makes way too many though and now we are aware of this we should be nowhere near giving him a contract. He also needs dropping with Brynn given a chance as the long term option at the club currently
 
Yep, every player has mistakes in them.

Judge a player by his worst mistake, ad you'll come to the conclusion there has never been a good player.

What matters is their balance between mistakes and the good things they do. This has to be much higher for defenders and keepers than it does for attacking players, who can get by on good moments, where the defensive players have to get it right almost all of the time.
 
It’s concentration levels.

Players with great concentration levels make very few mistakes - John Terry, Van der Saar etc.

People with average concentration levels make a few mistakes - practically every player.

Players with poor concentration levels make more mistakes than most - Pickford, Barthez, Guzan, Stones, Betinelli, Ayala etc.

Technique also plays a part.
 
That’s true but there are more error prone players than others and they never seem to shake it off.
 
We could include strikers in this too, defenders and keepers make the mistakes that lead to goals against, but we can all think of strikers that seem to miss too many easy chances.
 
David James. Always thought he was a great keeper but god he could make some errors. Admit playing on Tomb Raider the night before a game and after making a error said all he could think about during the game was playing on Tomb Raider.
 
Tony Adams was seen as a donkey but finished pretty strong so some players are capable of shaking off reputations. Andy Cole did similar after being hammered early on at Man U.
 
Smoggle said:
We could include strikers in this too, defenders and keepers make the mistakes that lead to goals against, but we can all think of strikers that seem to miss too many easy chances.
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Thing is, so long as a striker puts enough in the back of the net, he's still considered decent.
 
I suppose the counter argument is does their general play make the odd mistake worth putting with? In many cases I think managers probably would argue it does.

Surprised David Luiz hasn't been mentioned yet. Definitely has that rep and rightly so. But when on his game he can be outstanding. Clubs have spent significant sums on him throughout his career, despite being capable of making ridiculous errors.

Titus Bramble is another who springs to mind. You always felt he had a mistake in him. Yet it seemed every time he played us, particularly for the barcodes, he played like Beckenbauer 😭
 
For me with Bettinelli its not about the mistakes.
Randolph had a tendency to hold onto the ball too long and made a silly mistake, the goal he let in against Villa was a bad mistake but you can legislate for that because it will happen.
Bettinelli is just a poor player. The only part of his game that's not very poor is his ability to kick the ball long under pressure.
His positioning, stature one on one, command, shot stopping from range, pushing the ball away from the danger area from long shots... everything about his game is distinctly poor.
 
Yeah I agree, it’s not howler after howler. It’s just he’s a really awful goalkeeper who gives you absolutely no confidence as a fan, god knows how the defence feel about him. He’s appaling and saves **** all.
 
zorro_mfc said:
That’s true but there are more error prone players than others and they never seem to shake it off.
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Yeah because their concentration levels , and in some instances technique (eg Ayala) aren’t as good as others.

Just the same as some players aren’t as strong or as fast as other players.
 
festa5 said:
I suppose the counter argument is does their general play make the odd mistake worth putting with? In many cases I think managers probably would argue it does.

Surprised David Luiz hasn't been mentioned yet. Definitely has that rep and rightly so. But when on his game he can be outstanding. Clubs have spent significant sums on him throughout his career, despite being capable of making ridiculous errors.

Titus Bramble is another who springs to mind. You always felt he had a mistake in him. Yet it seemed every time he played us, particularly for the barcodes, he played like Beckenbauer 😭
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General play definitely makes up for it.

Bramble is a great example, pace, power and he couldn’t play as well, great passer of the ball. If he didn’t have such poor concentration levels which meant he often dropped a clanger he would have played at a top 6 club.

I suppose the opposite to such players would be Jamie Carragher, small (for a cb), slow, fairly weak, bang average technique, but was 100% concentrated for the entire game, not only was he completely switched on to what he was doing but he was even thinking about his team mates games and keeping them in check etc
 
Mistake making is what separates good players from great players.

An example is John Stones. Undoubted ability, but he's got a crick in his play. e.g. England game. It's a mental thing and/or lack of confidence.

As stated by others earlier in this post in Bettinelli's case it's not the fact he's generally really good but then makes a hash out of something, he's just a very poor standard.
 
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