Playing out from the back

BiggEggo said:
I will go back to what JFH said about our performance at Chelsea.

Even Man City go long ball at times.

What's the point of letting teams press you, and never using the space they leave in behind to punish them. We are half baked with our current approach.
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away to chelsea we had no pace to go behind
 
Playing out from the back is fine when we are on the front foot. When it becomes risky when we are defending and we try and play our way out of a tight situation. Sometimes we just need to clear the ball upfield into the channels.
 
iamborome said:
Playing out from the back is fine when we are on the front foot. When it becomes risky when we are defending and we try and play our way out of a tight situation. Sometimes we just need to clear the ball upfield into the channels.
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They were committing 5 or 6 bodies forward to press us in our own 3rd fir the first half an hour. If we'd knocked a couple of long balls into channels for Greenwood and Forss to chase theyvwoukd have had to rethink it.
 
Mendieta14 said:
doesn't work without Dieng
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Nothing change with Dieng in goal. It’s all about the speed you move the ball and the midfielders being willing have the ball under pressure and looking to move it forward with pace. The GK isn’t the problem it’s the slow ponderous tactics which are currently being used by us.
 
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Jedi boro said:
No that’s Jones as look at the shambles we become without him in it.
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Jones is also really important for how we play. It's not just his pace which gives us an outlet, it's his knack of finding space and ability to receive long balls from the keeper and hold on to the ball.
 
Kosovo said:
Nothing change with Dieng in goal. It’s all about the speed you move the ball and the midfielders being willing have the ball under pressure and looking to move it forward with pace.
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I think both matter. Need two CMs who are comfortable to receive and play under pressure and carry the ball into space when it's there.

But having a keeper who can receive the ball and play good passes is a big help as well
 
When we had higher quality players I could accept it , now its become a liability as the oposition win the ball from us about a third of the time and criticially its usually a dangerous position opposed to losing the ball in their half with all of our players behind the ball. Notice how Bristol City mixed it so we had to guess what they were going to do.
 
BiggEggo said:
I will go back to what JFH said about our performance at Chelsea.

Even Man City go long ball at times.

What's the point of letting teams press you, and never using the space they leave in behind to punish them. We are half baked with our current approach.
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If you watch the first 10 mins of the Chelsea game, they actually tried several ineffective long balls against us. Does show that teams can mix it up.
 
Bruciebonus said:
Teams know we are going to try it and set-up accordingly. Bristol City did a job on us first 20 minutes, pressing high up the pitch which resulted in us struggling to get out of our half then finding ourselves 2-0 down.

I don't know why we don't mix it up and play it long now and again, especially in the first 20 to 30 mins when players are fresh and close down quickly. It was suicide football today.
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because long term success comes from having a philosophy, training every day to improve at that and working to get the players to fit it. If we just chuck it in every time we get caught out, then we don't have a philosophy and will flip flop around forever.

We will lose goals occasionally from a good press, but if we keep at it, keep learning, keep getting better ballers in, it will come good.
 
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