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Personally think we would be bottom three as our defenders are nowhere near premiership quality. It is easy to say our loan players would have stayed but not one of them have pulled up trees this year so not sure if we had gone up it would be any different. Credit to Luton for what they have achieved but can you imagine our fanbase or FMTTM after two 5.0 drubbings at home like Sheffield United. Boro council would have to buy more land for all the funerals due to high rate of suicides. It would be great to get back into the premiership but it will be a very difficult year and more than likely we would come right back down if or when we do get there.
 
We would have been able to keep the loan signings we had last season and would have been able to bring in other signings to strengthen even more. Plus we would have kept Chuba. If he got the goals this season would have been a bigger question
 
If we had gone up last year we would be adrift in the relegation zone. Carrick would have been sacked a month ago and allardyce would be in charge. We struggle a lot more when trying to play out against a good press, than when teams sit back. Burnley were better than us, we would be a worse version of them.
 
How the hell Luton went up ahead of us still baffles me
Luton didn't go up instead of us.
They went up instead of Coventry. We couldn't beat Coventry in 4 games.
Boro fans need to take to take off the red tinted glasses, we are a mid table championship side. We would be below Burnley.
 
It would've taken at least £50m to keep Akpom and the loans meaning £50m to be as good as we were in the championship (which wasn't good enough). Realistically we'd have been in a similar situation to the others.
 
It would've taken at least £50m to keep Akpom and the loans meaning £50m to be as good as we were in the championship (which wasn't good enough). Realistically we'd have been in a similar situation to the others.

It would have cost nothing to keep Akpom.
 
It would have cost nothing to keep Akpom.
My point was more about just retaining the quality we had which is why I included Akpom.

He wasn't going to play for free though. He wanted a new contract. There would have been no transfer fee but we'd have £10m less than we got and we'd be paying him much higher wages.

Fees for Archer, Ramsey, Giles and Steffen (or another GK) would've been close to £50m anyway. Archer, Ramsey and Giles went for over £40m combined.
 
My point was more about just retaining the quality we had which is why I included Akpom.

He wasn't going to play for free though. He wanted a new contract. There would have been no transfer fee but we'd have £10m less than we got and we'd be paying him much higher wages.

Fees for Archer, Ramsey, Giles and Steffen (or another GK) would've been close to £50m anyway. Archer, Ramsey and Giles went for over £40m combined.

We'd have over £170m in Premier League money, which would more than make up for that and for the increased wages that every player would have had with promotion clauses.

Giles went for £5m, Ramsey went for £14m, Archer went for £18m.
That's £37m.

I think we'd have signed a different keeper to Steffen, given his injury, but it would be a similar sort of fee to Giles.

It would have been substantially less than £50m to retain the loan players, and we would have had a lot more money available to spend on further reinforcements.
 
£170m isn't for a single season. You don't just have that to spend the day you get promoted.

Ramsey was £14m plus add-ons which could be anything but most likely another couple of million. That's £40m just for them.

PL goalkeepers aren't typically going for £5m. Burnley paid £19m for Trafford, Palace paid £15m for Henderson, Turner went to Forest for £10m. That's before you get to the more expensive ones like Onana, Sanchez, Raya etc. I think we would have signed Steffen and we would have bought another keeper to cover until he was fit, maybe even Dieng.

I think £50m to stand still is pretty much bang on and I think that squad was far too weak for the PL. It potentially would have needed another £100m on top of that to improve enough to compete. Anyone that thinks otherwise is seriously underestimating the step-up to the PL.
 
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