Lemmy_kilmister
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I suppose my barmpot cousin will have been there. She thinks that the world is controlled by a load of Bond villians sat around a big table stroking angora cats.
'Real men don't wear masks'.......FFS
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FabioPorkpie
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So do half the posters on here.
TheYorkshireTerrier
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'They're coming for your children next' is definitely something that the blue tick anti-vaxxers constantly tweet. Thought I recognised it straight away:
Literally just repeating what they say word for word, almost like... a cult
Literally just repeating what they say word for word, almost like... a cult
HarryVegas
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Ah, that medical specialist Gillian McKeith. Or to address her by her full educational title.....erm........Gillian McKeith.
Frozen Horse
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Given that we managed to avoid a 'flu outbreak during the last Winter, will anyone consider voluntarily wearing a mask next Winter?
I think we all know that you wear a mask to protect others rather than to protect yourself. I'm thinking the benefits are probably worth the minimal inconvenience.
Obviously, if strangers might not think I'm a real man for doing it, I'll not do it, because nothing is more manly that bowing to peer pressure....
I think we all know that you wear a mask to protect others rather than to protect yourself. I'm thinking the benefits are probably worth the minimal inconvenience.
Obviously, if strangers might not think I'm a real man for doing it, I'll not do it, because nothing is more manly that bowing to peer pressure....
JM14
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40K followers and verified by twitter yet allowed to continue to post ***** like that, timeline full of nothing but misinformation but allowed to continue posting.
Do people like her think that encouraging people not to take vaccines will end this sooner or cause it to drag on even longer?
JM14
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I really dont understand the huge objection to them, they are the most insignificant and mildly inconvenient that you could have to wear. Would it be such a bad thing if wearing them in public settings continued?
Funky Chicken or Selfish Chicken?
Take another 2 days out from this site for continued anti-vaxxer propaganda - at a very sensitive time.
Take another 2 days out from this site for continued anti-vaxxer propaganda - at a very sensitive time.
festa5
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It's also pretty damn manly to incessantly moan like fork about having to wear a small piece of cloth over your mouth for a few minutes a day.
dooderooni
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I'll be wearing one for sure.
magic
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I wouldn’t bother returning funky, if you don’t swallow the narrative that is spoonfed to you by the sage and government mouthpieces of the MSM it appears you must be cancelled, even on here a supposed free thinking and independent message board. If you cannot see there is something not quite right about all this now then I despair.
SmallTown
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To be fair to admin they have been quite clear about not spreading conspiracy theories on here. They even posted a thread about it. Funky was given fair warning, he was asked to stop his theory. Especially as anti vaxxing is actually harmful to us as a population. He doesn't seem to be heeding those warnings
Andy_W
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It's not a narrative, it's called logic, with regards to vaccines, masks, distancing, indoor/ outdoor risk, these have all been backed up countless times now, by science and maths, you don't need mainstream media for logic/ fact. The board is mostly logical, and that's why you don't agree with it, as it does not fit your illogical narrative.
That doesn't mean you can't be against the government though, most are on here, as they have handled this terribly, largely as they have not followed science or advice (like from SAGE), don't lump the two together, as they're not together.
Freedom of speech isn't freedom of consequence. If that speech leads to people ignoring masks/ vaccines etc, then it's ignoring science and increasing the collective risk, which will ultimately cost lives to the collective, as adding more covid is always worse for the NHS and anyone that uses it.
Andy_W
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I went to the supermarket last night and two guys walked in, not wearing masks, both walked like they were carrying carpets acting rock hard (maybe they were), but neither looked like the sharpest tools in the box, and both looked like they had been in one or two scraps in their life.
Needless to say, nobody confronted them about not wearing a mask, largely because of how they "looked" I expect, but then that got me thinking about the thread title, I wonder if these "real men" would walk around so confidently maskless if they were physically weaker, or themselves vulnerable? They didn't exactly look like nurses, care workers or teachers etc. Most of them just look to be doing it to kick up a fuss or to try and stir up a confrontation.
Needless to say, nobody confronted them about not wearing a mask, largely because of how they "looked" I expect, but then that got me thinking about the thread title, I wonder if these "real men" would walk around so confidently maskless if they were physically weaker, or themselves vulnerable? They didn't exactly look like nurses, care workers or teachers etc. Most of them just look to be doing it to kick up a fuss or to try and stir up a confrontation.
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Andy_W
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Dunno like, this below seemed extremely misleading regarding vaccines, at best, and he's said a few times he's anti-vax hasn't he?
25 million (about a third of the population) haven't had a first jab (that's not a relatively small number), and 37m aren't fully vaccinated (more than half of the population, not a small number)
There's no plan for mandatory vaccines for everyone, and realistically there never will be (maybe for care/ NHS staff, but I/ most don't disagree with that)
There's no reason to lock down, once we have enough people vaccinated (with both doses)
There is little (none that I can think of) benefit to the government, for the whole UK being locked down for a longer duration than it needs (to not overwhelm the NHS)
That's just all conspiracy, and needlessly linked to vaccines
Laughing
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That's our of context Andy he was talking about autumn when everyone who wants to be vaccinated is, not now.
Johnson has already said we're in for a tough autumn preparing people for another lockdown.
So no I don't read it as antivax.
magic
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Just out of interest, what right would anyone have had to confront them?? The guideline quite clearly states you have no right to ask anyone about their exemption status. Rather than getting self righteous and bullying people (obviously depending on their size and probably sex) why don’t you just keep away from them if you’re that terrified.
Andy_W
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I disagree, largely as it's not just what he posted here, it's what he's repeatedly posted over and over, which you have seen as you've been on all the same threads as me. He's been on about "the now" for months or whatever. But I'll get onto the rest after his quote.
How you read it and how most will/ may read it will be very different. To me it looks pure 100% conspiracy, and illogical, which is seemingly why he was put on the naughty step, and why quite a few argued against him for it.
When did Johnson say we might have a tough autumn, in what context? I've not heard them mention another lockdown (albeit I pay little attention to BJ), and what do you mean by lockdown (now isn't a lockdown for example)?
We might be in for a tough autumn, due to flu, and other viruses, or how this third wave pans out, but why would there be another lockdown, if most adults are double jabbed by then, and we like also have boosters? Flu and other virus have a low R0 and are also nowhere near as deadly, and would be starting from an absolutely tiny base level, we would have an unreal head start on all of them.
There is, once it's under control, which science and maths says isn't far away. Delta threw a massive spanner in the works, obviously.
Vaccines have always been the way out, nothing has changed there, the degree of vaccine cover/ infection required is proportional to the R0 of the virus you're fighting. Virus R0 goes up, vaccine cover/ infection has to go up (until you reach your reasonable limit). Herd immunity limits are higher for more transmissible viruses, it's been this way forever. virus changes/ circumstances chage.
Nobody has accepted the "new normal" not who I know anyway, never mind the majority, 99.9% of people hate it, just most are ok with it until we get most double jabbed. Seemingly it's only the AZ lot who double jabs matter most to (as first jab cover is lower than pfizer), as far as hospitalisation goes, so as soon as they're done and the <40 who want it have all had 1 jab and 2-3 weeks build-up, then 90% of the reason for 99% of restrictions disappears.
There will be tiny support for restrictive measures, never mind lockdowns once we have all adults who want the jab, double jabbed, but most realise we're not quite there yet.