Renewal Announcement - 30th March Deadline

newyddion said:
Some fans have already decided not to renew.. no reason to do an interview or bother his asre at all. Wack up the ticket prices.. bring forward the renewal deadline.. job done.
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I would like him to do an interview but I do feel whatever he says will be disregarded by some of our fans regardless.
 
Is there a chance that the timing of the early bird has something to do with Fair play rules or just accountancy i.e before April 1st. Start of the financial year
 
FishofContemplation said:
They don’t. No club without parachute payments has secured automatic promotion since Leeds United four years ago and no one looking at the way Ipswich are dropping suspect that’s not going to become five. I think there’s only been a couple of others since we managed it.

The best that is up for grabs for the rest is a puncher’s chance in the playoffs. And even then you are up against teams with parachute money. You need every edge. Since our relegation from the Premier League last time, we have basically been competitive for the playoffs every year, but the Woodgate year. That’s not bad going. It’s not great, but it’s better than most.
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But the point is that they're there or thereabouts, but their season ticket prices are way lower than ours - so the extra money isn't going on pushing us above our peers, it's keeping us treading water but we're paying more for it.

That's my point.
 
newyddion said:
So.. we just leave it like this then?
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I'd like Gibson to do an interview but let's be honest, it probably isn't going to happen, and to an extent I can understand why he's reluctant to do one.

Many are saying they're not renewing plenty will change their mind I reckon.
 
The people defending the price rise based on inflation seem to be forgetting that we already had prices that were too high (and higher than almost every championship and most of the PL). The previous prices were unjustifiable. The price increase being based on inflation is only acceptable if you accept that the previous price was reasonable, which it never was.
 
parmoboy said:
I'd like Gibson to do an interview but let's be honest, it probably isn't going to happen, and to an extent I can understand why he's reluctant to do one.

Many are saying they're not renewing plenty will change their mind I reckon.
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Either way the club doesn’t care
 
The_Lizards_Jumpers said:
But the point is that they're there or thereabouts, but their season ticket prices are way lower than ours - so the extra money isn't going on pushing us above our peers, it's keeping us treading water but we're paying more for it.

That's my point.
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Then your point is plain wrong.

Since we were relegated we have been in the top 10 five seasons in six which I think backs up my claim “generally in play-off contention, except for the Woodgate season”. Let’s look at your equivalents.

Preston are the best. Two out of 6 seasons in the top 10 (not five, and no play-off cigar in either of them) and every one in the championship at least so at least they were always in the game.

Coventry have managed one in the top 10, and three in league one. Hull none in the top 10 and one in league one. Ipswich, none in the top 10 and four in league one. How are they remotely comparable? How are they remotely there or thereabouts to the extent that we are? How are they remotely our peers in terms of performance?
 
The overall impact of ticket sales to total revenues for us and other Championship teams when compared to those of teams in the PL is no doubt an excessive proportion. Moreover, Teesside is an economically depressed market area.

As a result, we have the critical requirement for the very careful and delicate management by the club of its ticket sales.

That said, the sooner we get back to the PL with its abundance in tv revenues the better. The bottom line % contribution from ticket sales to overall revenues would then adjust significantly downwards and the club could more easily and fairly address those contributions (from and for) the fans in the seats.

Until then, maybe the club could use some of the one-off revenues from player sales to soften the blow.
 
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Ravs said:
The overall impact of ticket sales to total revenues for us and other Championship teams when compared to those of teams in the PL is no doubt an excessive proportion. Moreover, Teesside is an economically depressed market area.

As a result, we have the critical requirement for the very careful and delicate management by the club of its ticket sales.

That said, the sooner we get back to the PL with its abundance in tv revenues the better. The bottom line % contribution from ticket sales to overall revenues would then adjust significantly downwards and the club could more easily and fairly address those contributions (from and for) the fans in the seats.

Until then, maybe the club could use some of the one-off revenues from player sales to soften the blow.
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Last time we went up they put the prices up.

Last season when we were looking good for promotion they put the prices up, there was a rather large split in the fan base and a lot of good will was ***ed away and the results on the pitch went down and haven't recovered since.
 
free_pint said:
Last time we went up they put the prices up.

Last season when we were looking good for promotion they put the prices up, there was a rather large split in the fan base and a lot of good will was ***ed away and the results on the pitch went down and haven't recovered since.
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Nothing wrong with paying a little more for a better and more globally recognized product.
Ideally, we should be competitive with teams of similar stature in the PL.
 
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indeedido said:
If it is so ridiculously low, then why do they need it?
Works both ways that see.
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It’s an extra 630k for the club based on current season ticket sales - as i say it’s a relatively small increase for a seasons football but obviously it hasn’t gone down well with some fans, probably a lot of it has to do with the club’s appalling PR
 
indeedido said:
Not automatic, but 3 have gone up since Leeds did without PP's
Luton last season.
Nottingham Forest the season before.
Brentford the season before that.
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Exactly what I said. We’re scrapping for the puncher’s chance of a play off slot. And five times in the top ten since we last came down is 5/6 scrapping for that puncher’s chance. I don’t know for certain that no one has done better, because I can’t be fashed to check, but I suspect no one has. You’re welcome to suggest otherwise.
 
Ravs said:
Nothing wrong with paying a little more for a better and more globally recognized product.
Ideally, we should be competitive with teams of similar stature in the PL.
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But your post was about if we went up they'd be able to reduce the prices..
 
free_pint said:
But your post was about if we went up they'd be able to reduce the prices..
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No it wasn’t.

I was implying that ticket revenues would be of lesser criticality and importance than they are today and that the club would have more room to manage same as a result.

The careful and delicate management of ticket pricing with the paying customer would be significant in whatever league we’re operating.
 
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