Marvanelli
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You've misunderstood my point. What I was saying is that domestic cups aren't enough and are largely irrelevant. Had they won 0 league titles in this 5 years and a plethora of League Cups he wouldn't have lasted this long. Its all about the PL and the CL, no one judges managers by League Cups anymore, certainly not at that level with that amount spent.
This season he's done well to get the title back and he will have done well to win the CL if they do.
Best manager ever, or of his generation? He's got to win the CL this season (or at least before he leaves) in my opinion. Yes the bar is high because being called the best manager of a generation is a high bar.
"they have no right just to beat Lyon last year" - no idea what this means. So they have no right to win it so he shouldn't be judged on it? How does that work? Woodgate had no 'right' to win any of his games so maybe we should have kept him? Don't get that at all.
Up until now his European record at City has been poor. Sorry but that's a fact.
Alex Ferguson's European record at Utd was hardly great. 2 CL wins in 27 seasons. Are you suggesting he wasn't a world class manager?
Is that how you're deemed to be a world class manager, winning the CL? Because Pep has already won it twice...
And who said he's the best manager ever or of his generation?
3 PL wins in 5 seasons is a great record when you look at the power of the other clubs - Utd have spent similar amounts. Liverpool have broken transfer records, Chelsea always spend money....It's hardly the French or Scottish league where there's no competition.